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[nudgemaster]

Hi All

After some advice on taking nicks stood up!

I am only a second season keeper and came away with a number of victims last season.

Mainly playing seconds I stand up to almost everyone, I come off with more stumpings than catches last year in the seconds. Though I am aware I dropped a number of catches.

I played a handful with our firsts last season and took a number of catches to genuine quicks stood back, dropping none. I found this surprisingly regulation.

Is it reactions standing up or worrying and having any hard hands??

Any suggestions or solutions to taking catches stood up are welcome!!

[Seniorplayer]

Concentrate.


When catching try and get your head and eyes over the ball.
Watch the ball into your gloves with  fingers pointing down.
Catch a delivery offside or legside by moving your feet and body into line with the ball
Avoid hard hands cushion the impact of the ball into the gloves by " giving" with your  hands to reduce impact.

[Tailendfielder]

Personnally i believe its reactions.

Standing up, thick edges are really tough to take. I wouldnt stand up to all bowlers regardless of how quick/slow they are, if they are moving the ball you are more likely to take a catch than stump the batsman.

Sometimes i feel people stand up out of ego rather than need.

[400notout]

I find my glove work is good up until the noise of a nick. I usually get someone to wave an inner around in my drills, makes a good noise and slight deviation, great practise.

[nudgemaster]

tailender

I do somewhat believe it is out of ego!

And the other point about if its swinging stand back, but then they bar well outside putting element of doubt for any LBW??

We have a 40 wicket leggy so have to stand upto him.

[ProCricketer1982]

As a batsmen, if the keeper goes back to a swing bowler I'll be Batting well down the track to make them drop short. So unfortunatly you will be needed to stand up sometimes,

[nudgemaster]

I am the same pro.

And it adds to pressure keeper being up, playing on soft tracks when you have to get forward.

The keeper up adds element of doubt.

[procricket]

Watch the ball come up with it and keep the head level.

I find many keepers come up to early sends a trigger to there hands to harden.

Relax expect every ball to be steady nd stay low.

Standing up for me is about Rythem and like most
Things in cricket repeatability so expect evey ball and relax and stay low

As others have mentioned use a cone and have throw downs and get the person to snick balls.

[ProCricketer1982]

I am the same pro.

And it adds to pressure keeper being up, playing on soft tracks when you have to get forward.

The keeper up adds element of doubt.

exactly, you almost don't have to take every stumping etc. Most batsmen won't take the risk of coming out their crease if you are stood up

[Tailendfielder]

As a batsmen, if the keeper goes back to a swing bowler I'll be Batting well down the track to make them drop short. So unfortunatly you will be needed to stand up sometimes,

I agree you would then want to stand up in that scenario, but i wouldnt stand up straight away as there much more suspetable to a nick early on. Good bowlers can adjust anyway and bowlers that swing the ball earlier sometimes benefit if a batsman is coming down the wicket. There are players that once forced to stay in there crease, play better and you are better off letting them wonder around the crease tieing themsevles in knots and messing there balance up.

Point was, I see to many young keepers stand up to show off and prove a point without thinking about why and when. As a result missing catches and making bowlers grumpy.

[ProCricketer1982]

I agree you would then want to stand up in that scenario, but i wouldnt stand up straight away as there much more suspetable to a nick early on. Good bowlers can adjust anyway and bowlers that swing the ball earlier sometimes benefit if a batsman is coming down the wicket. There are players that once forced to stay in there crease, play better and you are better off letting them wonder around the crease tieing themsevles in knots and messing there balance up.

Point was, I see to many young keepers stand up to show off and prove a point without thinking about why and when. As a result missing catches and making bowlers grumpy.

I don't disagree with you about waiting to see what the batsmen is doing and that ego's are the main reason club keepers stand up when really, they aren't good enough to do it effectively so should just stay back.

[WalkingWicket37]

As a very part time keeper I'm probably talking crap, but I'll give it a go anyway!

The best catch I've taken with the glove on was off the opening bowler. He'd come back for a spell at the death and was charging in. I was keeping and chose to stand up because 1 it was staying low and 2 the batsman has been going for a walk. Because of the pitch and the fact I was closer I was making a concious effort not to start coming up until the ball had pitched (something I picked up from a keepers masterclass I'd seen somewhere, maybe a Geraint Jones one on the BBC).

The bowler pitches one up outside off, batsman swings and gets a stick and as if stayed low until it pitched I came up with the ball and it just hit the gloves. I suddenly looked gun and we went on to win the game 

Moral of the story, don't stand up unless you have to, keep low and watch the ball!
As a final thought, the Billy Big Bollox routine of standing up to everyone is more detrimental than beneficial in my opinion. Ive seen it done a few times where it results in more byes and dropped catches than standing back would've resulted in.

[HallamKeeper]

Generally I will only stand up to certain bowlers in my team. The fast bowlers, it would be stupid to stand up to because anything wide down leg is 4 byes and anything other than the finest of nicks would take a super human effort to catch.

One of our medium pacers swings it both ways so I stand up to him as the batsmen are very susceptible to playing and missing on the front foot so the stumping is a real danger. As is the leg side catch off a fine edge. Whipping the bails off when they miss obviously puts it in their mind too despite being slightly annoying to bowlers who want to get through their overs quickly. 

My keeping coach just tells me the usual basic stuff I'm sure you all know. Keep low and rise with the ball, soft hands and good head position and most importantly rhythm. He also told me to stop worrying about the edges. Just take the ball in the direction that is it travelling from pitching (not moving your gloves side to side like a curtain) and the nicks will take care of themselves. When I first started a couple of years ago my shoulders noticeably tensed when the batsman took a swipe, now it's better but can always improve.

I tend to play on quite a few wickets with poor bounce so I try to stand close enough to take an edge but I wouldn't stand up unless I was around 4-5 paces away from the stumps. I go on the theory that an edge that makes the ball deviate buy a couple of feet will only have moved a few inches when it passes the stumps.

Anyway that's my rambling thoughts on keeping at an OK level.

[compstallcc]

i had this problem last season and it was a mixture of things:
firstly surface area. make your gloves as wide as possible because the impact of the ball will make them close as it hits. wide surface area gives you greatest possiblity of making contact with the ball. Secondly watch the ball all the way to your gloves, not much more to say there. Last i would say is hard hands, before each ball i remind myself to have 'soft hands strong wrists' this ensures that the ball isnt going to bounce out. try all 3/ a mixture of all 3 and see if you see improvements