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[csnew]

Brilliant 100 from holder! Match saving knock.

[InternalTraining]

Holder da mon!!!!

Great job!

[csnew]

40 overs from tredwell and the only wicket he took was one that was gifted to him from a poor shot. Hasn't looked threatening at all. No one seemed to tell him to bowl quicker on a sluggish pitch

As well as west indies have batted, England have thrown this one away.

They knew the type of pitch that was coming, declaration should have come 5-6 overs earlier. More pressure on cook!

[smilley792]

Well done holder and the windies.

England pretty poor. Didn't deserve the win.

[FattusCattus]

I don;t know about the timing of the declaration - I think that was fair. The prblem is 4 x right arm seamers of a similar pace + 2 off-spinners. One steady at best and the other a part-timer.

These are flat wickets, there is a case for Ali and Rashide coming in for Trott and Tredwell.

[WalkingWicket37]

I don;t know about the timing of the declaration - I think that was fair. The prblem is 4 x right arm seamers of a similar pace + 2 off-spinners. One steady at best and the other a part-timer.

These are flat wickets, there is a case for Ali and Rashide coming in for Trott and Tredwell.

The 4 man seam attack was too samey for my liking.
England could do with a real pace bowler, someone like Mitchell Johnson, Dale Steyn or Liam Plunkett would be nice...

In the next test we could do with Lyth coming in for Trott to open and Moeen for Tredwell, as Root has proved he can do a job bowling his tweakers from an end.
We could go really drastic and bring Rashid in for Jordan too... 

[jamesisapayne]

Some pretty harsh comments here, Jesus. Thought cook's captaincy was pretty good, we had enough runs on the board and enough time to get the 10 wickets. I thought the bowlers tried their hardest, but think the pitch was the deciding factor. Can't remember the last time I saw a track that offered so little on the 5th day. They could still be bowling on that next week and not get any assistance.

[golden duck]

Well done to WI, holder gutted it out, congrats, England ran out of ideas.

As said above - too samy, too RH mid fast, too staid

[InternalTraining]

Good captaincy by Cook.

[ProCricketer1982]

Well done holder and the windies.

England pretty poor. Didn't deserve the win.

Agree with this. Poor from England

[WalkingWicket37]

Yes the bowlers tried and credit where it's due Cook's captaincy was above par.

However, the bowling attack offered no real variation.

For the next test is like to see (but it won't happen)

Cook*
Lyth
Ballance
Bell
Root
Stokes
Moeen
Butler+
Rashid/Jordan (pitch dependant)
Plunkett
Anderson

[golders]

Yes the bowlers tried and credit where it's due Cook's captaincy was above par.

However, the bowling attack offered no real variation.

For the next test is like to see (but it won't happen)

Cook*
Lyth
Ballance
Bell
Root
Stokes
Moeen
Butler+
Rashid/Jordan (pitch dependant)
Plunkett
Anderson

A lot of depth to that batting line up! Apart from Cook the walking wicket...

[FattusCattus]

Rightly or wrongly, they won;t drop Broad. Other than that, I agree with the selection, my enormous-girthed friend.

[WalkingWicket37]

A lot of depth to that batting line up! Apart from Cook the walking wicket...

Cook won't get dropped because he's captain so I almost had to put him there.

As Fattus said Broad will get another game to stand at square leg with his eyed closed, then send down so 80mph half volleys.
Another series - Same old England

[Number4]

So mentally who won this game?