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[tim2000s]

Flaccid stuff from England. It's like watching a deflated balloon deflate even more. At this point in time we are looking at the worst team in Test Cricket playing. And it isn't the home one. Bangladesh will be fancying a nibble...

[ppccopener]

WHY CAN'T OUR PLAYERS ACTUALLY HIT THE BALL OFF THE SQUARE.

we will never win when we have such a one paced batting "unit".

arggh.

you need stroke players at the top of the order to put pressure on the bowling team.

this is abysmal. and expected.

the players are scared of getting out. Scared of the commentators waiting to pick apart their techniques, scared of being dropped, scared of failing, scared or Sir Geoff,Scared full stop.
Once this grips a side it's like a disease you cannot get rid of.
Is that an excuse for England...No it is not.
Please someone disagree with me because it's plainly in front of our eyes.
We have to have  someone force a change of mindset and to hell with the timid stuff. How ?  I'd be interested to hear. This coach needs to go I do know that.
No -one can tell me we don't have the talent in this country-I simply refuse to believe it

[ProCricketer1982]

the players are scared of getting out. Scared of the commentators waiting to pick apart their techniques, scared of being dropped, scared of failing, scared or Sir Geoff,Scared full stop.
Once this grips a side it's like a disease you cannot get rid of.
Is that an excuse for England...No it is not.
Please someone disagree with me because it's plainly in front of our eyes.
We have to have  someone force a change of mindset and to hell with the timid stuff. How ?  I'd be interested to hear. This coach needs to go I do know that.
No -one can tell me we don't have the talent in this country-I simply refuse to believe it

Do we have the talent though? It's ok wanting aggressive cricket but you can't just slog like in odi's/t20's

Colly has just scored 100 and taken pegs, so if he's able to still command a game like that is there talent around of good enough quality?

[ppccopener]

Home Alone Phil: England are playing village cricket at the moment.

the above from BBC TXT.

maybe we don't Procricketer, maybe we don't......

to be honest with regard to Colly, having watching him all his career for us I've nothing but admiration for the guy.
I just think now we might as well pick Wood, Lyth and Rashid and just give it a go. That's all I want..to have a go, and if we fail fine...just not sit around like ducks in a line waiting to be shot.
We have to change the momentum some how. We've all been there is a club game, bowlers get on top and the whole game goes like that.Someone puts bat to ball for half an hour and at least you have something.....

[ProCricketer1982]

Home Alone Phil: England are playing village cricket at the moment.

the above from BBC TXT.

maybe we don't Procricketer, maybe we don't......

to be honest with regard to Colly, having watching him all his career for us I've nothing but admiration for the guy.
I just think now we might as well pick Wood, Lyth and Rashid and just give it a go. That's all I want..to have a go, and if we fail fine...just not sit around like ducks in a line waiting to be shot.
We have to change the momentum some how. We've all been there is a club game, bowlers get on top and the whole game goes like that.Someone puts bat to ball for half an hour and at least you have something.....

Or

You're out even quicker. I do get your point and agree things need to change. Sending in biffers though isn't the answer, they have to be able to be test match batsmen. Buttler is exciting in odi/t20 but he's not good enough for tests, no point for example having more like him in there. Imagine the field day a good attack would have!

It's a balance, we don't have the right blend without kp

[csnew]

Usual excuses to come out to the England camp I reckon:
"Undercooked"
"Not played test match since summer"
"Not enough tour games"

[golders]

Or

You're out even quicker. I do get your point and agree things need to change. Sending in biffers though isn't the answer, they have to be able to be test match batsmen. Buttler is exciting in odi/t20 but he's not good enough for tests, no point for example having more like him in there. Imagine the field day a good attack would have!

It's a balance, we don't have the right blend without kp

Don't be too quick to judge Butler,he's only played 3 tests! I think he's exactly the kind of player England need, one who looks to dominate and stamp their authority on the opposition.

[ProCricketer1982]

Don't be too quick to judge Butler,he's only played 3 tests! I think he's exactly the kind of player England need, one who looks to dominate and stamp their authority on the opposition.

That's kp

Buttler is zero feet, 100% hands.. Crap for test cricket unless it's a flat pancake or Bangladesh . Wide of off stump, full, swing away, few slips, gully and catching on the drive.. Will have him every time

[joeljonno]

That's kp

Buttler is zero feet, 100% hands.. Crap for test cricket unless it's a flat pancake or Bangladesh . Wide of off stump, full, swing away, few slips, gully and catching on the drive.. Will have him every time

KP?

Just chuck a left arm spinner on or maybe Siddle if you're Australian.

Everyone has their weakness.

The best way for Buttler to become text quality I'd to play tests.


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[Manormanic]

What were their avgs last year?

Trott 45, Lyth 68...

[smilley792]

Root had a gm helmet in wc but now a masuri with a stem guard. 

The benefits of stem guards sold to them?

[procricket]

What did they average in the A games in South Africa.

Trott or Lyth

[Sam]

What did they average in the A games in South Africa.

Trott or Lyth

Trott 132
Lyth 36

From 2 tests.

[ppccopener]

Brilliant stuff from root and bell
Yes its easier against an older ball but they have looked to score and fot the momentum back

[smilley792]

Ton up for bell.

Gutted to see root fall. But atleast stokes has continued in a positive manner.