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[Ams4287]

Think that's the end of Trotts test career unfortunately

[SOULMAN1012]

That should be the end of Trott at test and international level, bounced out on a dead windies pitch, poor lyth must be fuming

[liscon12]

There point proven, he's got one more chance and next innings needs to be a massive hundred anything else he will loose his place.

[Buzz]

That should be the end of Trott at test and international level, bounced out on a dead windies pitch, poor lyth must be fuming

Not least because Lyth may go back to Eng, not get any runs and watch Hales take his possible place - thus not ever getting a chance.

[ppccopener]

he's not a natural opener, yes it's only one place but I'm convinced it's a mental approach, openers are a rare breed, i'm one of them, I actually like the hard ball coming on and it tests my technique,which gives out sometimes and holds up other times

Trott should of waited until a spot opens up in his position,....no spot available...then wait.

I think Lyth has been desparated unlucky not to play on this tour.

It does smack a bit of a closed shop, I hate to say it but that's how it looks.I wish Trotty well, god knows he baiuled us out many times in the past, but we must select on merit in future

[L21]

I think where the problem lies is in England's reluctance to pick players on form and merit is due to the central contracts.

Below is the list of CC players, the problem being is that there are two players on Central Contracts who aren't even close to being selected for England SF and CW. Added to this we have 5 players on Incremental Contracts, barring Tredwell, none of whom are on this tour.

I think the selectors almost tie their hands with who they are able to put into the team due to these contracts. They have given at least 5 players contracts who probably wont play a test game this year.

Yet they almost need to justify their selections so are reluctant to put anyone else in.

I wonder if the fee is different for players they select to go on tour, if they do not hold a contract, is based on whether they play or not?

The ECB has awarded central contracts for 2014-15 to the following:

Moeen Ali (Worcestershire)
James Anderson (Lancashire)
Gary Ballance (Yorkshire)
Ian Bell (Warwickshire)
Stuart Broad (Nottinghamshire)
Jos Buttler (Lancashire)
Alastair Cook (Essex)
Steven Finn (Middlesex)
Chris Jordan (Sussex)
Joe Root (Yorkshire)
Ben Stokes (Durham)
Chris Woakes (Warwickshire)

The ECB has awarded incremental contracts for 2014-15 to the following:

Ravi Bopara (Essex)
Alex Hales (Nottinghamshire)
Eoin Morgan (Middlesex)
Liam Plunkett (Yorkshire)
James Tredwell (Kent)

[liscon12]

Why is Plunkett in bold, he's over there isn't he?

[L21]

Correct, I missed him in the squad list.

If I am not mistaken though, wasn't he picked for his ability to take wickets and score 100's, not his ability to carry out the Robinson's

[Andythomo21]

I reckon 90+% of people I have spoken to or read comments from would have picked Lyth above Trott on this tour so why the F*#K can't the so called experts see it? Are we all missing something?!

[Andythomo21]

Yes, I am a Yorkshireman and a Whitby lad at that but it really does boil my P#*S!!

[uknsaunders]

The other problem with central contracts is they aren't split between Test and ODI. No point giving somebody a central contract who doesn't figure in test cricket on a regular basis, effectively it's money down the drain as ECB are paying the county for the luxury to not use him. Somebody like Woakes should get a ODI Central Contract, not one that covers tests (at the moment).

It would result in more contracts being given but worth less per player. Might also result in more choice and better use of a player, in terms of value for money.

[SOULMAN1012]

Not least because Lyth may go back to Eng, not get any runs and watch Hales take his possible place - thus not ever getting a chance.

Very good point Buzz, what a waste of a month for him. As lovely as being in the Caribbean must be I'm sure he would rated have been in England playing some cricket than netting and carrying drinks

[SOULMAN1012]

Good old England. Think Smith was very accurate when he predicted Aus would have no trouble turning this lot over.

[ppccopener]

balance and bell gone

the wheels are coming off

[csnew]

How cook wasn't given out is a shocking decision! You see the finger under the ball clearly.

More rubbish 3'rd umpiring