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[Giraffe208]

Or am I not given the players enough credit?

Perhaps they want Moores out?

[joeljonno]

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I vote we ignore trying to find all rounders. Lets just pick specialists to do their job

All rounders are important and have their place. A team is always stronger with a good all rounder.

Emphasis on the word 'good'.

I think they have too many bit-part all rounders in Ali, Stokes and Jordan.

Get a proper spinner in.  Rashid turns it and can bat, he's as good as Jordan if not better.

Then either Stokes or Jordan. What Jordan lacks in batting he certainly gains in fielding. Awesome slip catches. Good hands.

Then the space can be something different, like a quick Finn, Plunkett or the like. Someone who can hit 90.

England have had one real bad innings in this series and it could cost them big.

It may be a good thing in the long run as if Moores were to go, a 1-1 in the Windies compared to 2-0 would be a big point in it.


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[Giraffe208]

All rounders are important and have their place. A team is always stronger with a good all rounder.

Emphasis on the word 'good'.

Couldn't agree more.

We don't have that 'good' all rounder so by all means give someone a chance but dont just gamble on 3 players in the same team hoping one of them steps up to the plate

[csnew]

West Indies in a rush here. Lara-esk shot there from bravo.

[Marc28]

Agree with most of what's been said,

Can't believe Rashid isn't playing on this type of pitch would be ideal for him, plus as we know he can bat as well,
Broad is a shadow of the player he was aphid batting is genuinely woeful for a player of his ability.
As for the opener with Cook it has to be time to try Lyth surely he deserves his chance

[ProCricketer1982]

This is just showing this bunch of players and management up in their real light. Over rated and not up to it. Can't even beat a really really poor WI side.

Please someone defend this bunch of players because tbh, only one or two are coming out with any credit. He game needs this ECB and anyone who blindly follows them out... And quickly

[FattusCattus]

You have to pick your best XI, with ali,root and stokes floating about it should be possible to pick your best 4 bowlers with one of them as the 5th. The best XI we can pick is not a million miles away from what we have -

Cook
Lyth
Hales
Ballance
Root
Stokes
Buttler
Woakes
Broad
Anderson
Panesar

[joeljonno]

Couldn't agree more.

We don't have that 'good' all rounder so by all means give someone a chance but dont just gamble on 3 players in the same team hoping one of them steps up to the plate

I believe they are trying all as a trial for the Ashes. Whoever performs here best will take that spot. I have a feeling (which may be totally wrong) that they'll only play Stokes or Jordan and bring someone else in.


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[ProCricketer1982]

You have to pick your best XI, with ali,root and stokes floating about it should be possible to pick your best 4 bowlers with one of them as the 5th. The best XI we can pick is not a million miles away from what we have -

Cook
Lyth
Hales
Ballance
Root
Stokes
Buttler
Woakes
Broad
Anderson
Panesar

Why cook?? Why buttler? Why broad ?? Why Woakes ??

[csnew]

Doing this in style! What a knock by bravo, disappointing he didn't see it through

Embarrassing that even with Otis Gibson added to the back room staff to provide the inside information, England still couldn't beat west indies.

They had the best of conditions in this match with the pitch at it's best on day 1 and still lost.

[smilley792]

Not sure what's worse. Hat we lost or that we lost in 3 days. 

What a joke English cricket is.

Have your gloat Gerry and enjoy it. We deserve it.

[Giraffe208]

SO the fat lady is singing and with a big summer coming the coaching staff must be thinking

What can we really take from this
The players aren't quite good enough.
We've given some players the opportunity to carry drinks who potentially deserved at least a shot in the last match
An old stalwart cant open the batting and may end his career in a sad way
None of our 'potential' all rounders are quite good enough even in favourable conditions.
Is the P45 coming shortly

[csnew]

Graves did say if England don't win there will be an enquiry.

He also called west indies a mediocre team. Not bad for a mediocre team without some of their best players.

Time for moores and the selectors to go. Got the team wrong without playing a front line spinner.

[FattusCattus]

Why cook?? Why buttler? Why broad ?? Why Woakes ??

Right - perhaps I should have picked the Xi that I would pick, rather than what the selectors would pick -

Manager - Strauss
Coach - Moody
Batting Coach - Collingwood
Bowling Coach - Donald (if he would do it)


Hales
Lyth
Ballance
Root
Taylor*
Stokes
Buttler+
Willey
Plunkett
Anderson
Panesar

[golders]

Don't worry lads, Perfick ECB man and Cooky's Wookys buddy Andrew Strauss will tear this team up and sort everything.