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Re: Breaking: Trott retired from international cricket
« Reply #45 on: May 04, 2015, 08:52:29 PM »

Some of these comments are hilarious! Actually making me LOL!!

Let's face basic facts here.... Trott is 34, he's just openly admitted his technique isn't cut out for international cricket anymore so has walked away! Head held high in my opinion. I'm sure some of you have forgotten his first ashes series in Australia... He seemed to handle their attack decent enough then!

The negative comments about mental health are disgusting and have no place on an, open public forum!
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Re: Breaking: Trott retired from international cricket
« Reply #46 on: May 04, 2015, 08:53:07 PM »

I am sorry to see Trott depart from the international scene. Since the last Ashes, he didn't look comfortable with the bat.

Bad timing for team England...they could do away with drama and focus on cricket. Lot of young talent there that could use a bit of luck.
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Re: Breaking: Trott retired from international cricket
« Reply #47 on: May 04, 2015, 08:59:39 PM »

Would love to see Gerry face 94mph at his chin.

Trott was a very decent player who had a problem with the quick short ball, Wasn't the first and won't be the last. Clarke is another player who's terrible when it whizzes past his ears.

the pressures of elite level sport has again taken a victim. The guy tried to return to the sport which should be applauded and he goes out as an Ashes hero.
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Re: Breaking: Trott retired from international cricket
« Reply #48 on: May 04, 2015, 09:03:15 PM »

With you 100% here, Nick.

From my own experience with mental illness (having suffered from it myself and had my mother being badly effected) I must come from a family of "bottlers".

People making comments like that is what makes society such an ugly place nowadays.

I wouldn't wish mental health problems on anyone, but it really grinds my gears when people who've not experienced it first hand come out with sheer ignorance like that.


Well said mate
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Re: Breaking: Trott retired from international cricket
« Reply #49 on: May 04, 2015, 09:06:13 PM »

Now I have that last post out of my system!

It's a shame to see Trott depart in such a fashion.
He was a great number 3 for England and played a huge part in a very successful side.

There's not many come back to the top level after a mental illness, and it's great that he gave it another shot.
What I respect most is that he then held both hands up and admitted he wasn't good enough for international cricket any more, that takes a lot of bottle.

Thank you Jonathan Trott, for your service to English cricket and all the great memories you've given us along the way.
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Re: Breaking: Trott retired from international cricket
« Reply #50 on: May 04, 2015, 09:11:30 PM »

Hi All,

I'm back! Not that it is a massive fanfare but I have been away for a few months as a new job and a fiancee who wants to spend 'time together' involves me doing what she wants to do a lot!

I have just come across this and as someone who has had depression due to circumstance (A mixture of institutional and emotional bullying - something I am not scared to talk about) I find the idea that Trott 'bottled' his career as rather insulting. I work with a former England cricketer, and having spoken to him on many occasions, the demands on a test cricketer, especially one with a young family, are incredible.

Couple that with the constant abuse the guy has to suffer, through sledging, insults from the uneducated and uncultured as well as being in the media spotlight, regardless if you consider them to just be 'part of the job', the question should be - "Why are more sportsmen not suffering with stress related illnesses??"

Just my two pennies worth.
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Re: Breaking: Trott retired from international cricket
« Reply #51 on: May 04, 2015, 09:14:33 PM »

A quality player has retired. Given people can't be civilized I will lock this until the morning.

Pretty sad that I feel compelled to do this.

Opened again. Please keep it civilized
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Re: Breaking: Trott retired from international cricket
« Reply #52 on: May 05, 2015, 09:00:26 AM »

Trott bottled it. Fact. Second time he'd copped out in his career. Fact.
I think people get so much into arguments and into trying to wind up folk they forget being decent people. Regardless of what you think of trott you need to remember that he's human like us.
Imagine being thousands of miles away from your family facing 95 mph thunder bolts everytime you walk out. Many players are mentally tough to cope with it but quite a few can't. The ones who can't are again split into two: ones who try to keep fighting a losing battle and the ones who try and seek help. Trott was fortunate and brave enough to be in the later group, to belittle it by calling it bottling is shameful. What would you rather he do? Keep struggling in that dark place? Is suicide more manly for you than seeking help.

Disgraceful, just stop and put yourself in other peoples shoes for once. I have thankfully never gone through anything like that but I've come across mental health issue a lot in my education and it's people like you who need to stop spewing crap and actually allow people who need help to come forward.

Just my two cents from last night
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Re: Breaking: Trott retired from international cricket
« Reply #53 on: May 05, 2015, 09:44:21 AM »

Well put. Thanks for holding on to post.
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Re: Breaking: Trott retired from international cricket
« Reply #54 on: May 05, 2015, 09:44:43 AM »

A quality player who has admitted himself he no longer has what it takes to play at the highest level.  He was a key part of what was arguably one of England's finest test teams and an under rated ODI player by many.  Shame some peoples opinions don't reflect this.  I hope he goes and scores a bucket load on the county scene.
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Re: Breaking: Trott retired from international cricket
« Reply #55 on: May 05, 2015, 10:02:00 AM »

Trott has been a fantastic servant to English Cricket and when all is said and done his contributions to the best England side I've had the pleasure of supporting in my 28 years speak far more loudly than events in the last 18 months or so. Whether you agree or disagree with his withdrawal from playing for England, there comes a time where every player finds his international career comes to an end. Unfortunately life isn't always rainbows and butterflies and not everyone can go out in a manner fitting to their career.

Did Don Bradman deserve to find those six runs he needed to finish with an average of 100? Absolutely. Is he any less of a legend because he didn't? Absolutely not. 
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Re: Breaking: Trott retired from international cricket
« Reply #56 on: May 05, 2015, 10:30:47 AM »

Amla or Trott...yeah we got it right

Prince or Trott?
Peterson or Trott?
Rudolph or Trott?
Elgar or Trott?

Thats a whole lotta Trott...
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Re: Breaking: Trott retired from international cricket
« Reply #57 on: May 05, 2015, 10:35:08 AM »

No disrespect to others but Gerry offers up some valid points but he could work on his delivery.be luclucky

Mental Health issues can be discusses elsewhere Jonathan has raised the question again.

Just be lucky you never suffer from such an illness and enjoy the sport we have.

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Re: Breaking: Trott retired from international cricket
« Reply #58 on: May 05, 2015, 10:35:36 AM »

I don't think anyone should belittle Trott for retiring - he clearly sensed the writing on the wall and wanted it to appear to be his own choice.  I don't think they should put him down for being available either - Darren Lehmann apart I don't imagine anyone has ever said "no, pick the other bloke, he;s just better than me".  The only criticism he deserves is for his stupid attempt to back track regarding the nature of his condition on the last Ashes tour.

But...

...looked as a picture of the state of English cricket, this just highlights how badly Moores has managed the past series.  A guy who wasn't an opener and was in any event 34 and playing 18 months after serious stress related issues was picked ahead of a younger, in form specialist; you can say what you like about the standard of the West Indies, the pitches etc but one thing is certain - this was the easiest out of the five series that make up the current cycle of international cricket, and not blooding Lyth (or whomsoever else?) now means that they have to come in straight into the bear pit - and, if they don't succeed, the guy who replaces them does too.  Thats just bad management...
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Re: Breaking: Trott retired from international cricket
« Reply #59 on: May 05, 2015, 10:38:19 AM »

I have just come across this and as someone who has had depression due to circumstance (A mixture of institutional and emotional bullying - something I am not scared to talk about) I find the idea that Trott 'bottled' his career as rather insulting. I work with a former England cricketer, and having spoken to him on many occasions, the demands on a test cricketer, especially one with a young family, are incredible.

Couple that with the constant abuse the guy has to suffer, through sledging, insults from the uneducated and uncultured as well as being in the media spotlight, regardless if you consider them to just be 'part of the job', the question should be - "Why are more sportsmen not suffering with stress related illnesses??"

All valid points - the only reason Trott gets put down - at least in my opinion - is that where others such as Trescothick and Yardy dealt with their illues with candour and dignity, Trott put the whole cause back years when he insisted on childishly claiming that he hadn't suffered a mental illness at all...
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