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Re: Breaking: Trott retired from international cricket
« Reply #60 on: May 05, 2015, 10:46:27 AM »

You make some prescient points Manor, and we salute you for the use of the word 'whomsoever'.
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Re: Breaking: Trott retired from international cricket
« Reply #61 on: May 05, 2015, 10:48:37 AM »

You make some prescient points Manor, and we salute you for the use of the word 'whomsoever'.

why thankyouvereemuch!
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Re: Breaking: Trott retired from international cricket
« Reply #62 on: May 05, 2015, 10:59:16 AM »

I like Trott.

And potentially i think i like him more now. He came back when given the oppurtunity to see if he could still cut it. He can't, and he's been man enough to admit it.

Now, bring on the Kiwis.
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Re: Breaking: Trott retired from international cricket
« Reply #63 on: May 05, 2015, 10:59:36 AM »

thank god for some sensible comments regarding one of our best players in recent years

the troll fest late last night shows how unpleasant some people are hiding behind a computer screen
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Re: Breaking: Trott retired from international cricket
« Reply #64 on: May 05, 2015, 11:14:51 AM »

I remember Trott as the batsman hardest to dismiss when playing against us: despite him playing across the line on every ball on middle and leg, he relentlessly put us to the boundary. Whether it be age or otherwise, he was, at the time, in my opinion, the best no 3 in the world. His capacity and appetite for runs gave us (Aus) nightmares for the whole series! I would like to have seen him back in the team lower down the order to ease him back into International cricket as I still believe he has something to offer English cricket and could have strengthened the lower/ middle order.
As someone who remembers how potent you have been in the past, I wish you the very best for your future and look forward to seeing you watch on from the stands in the upcoming Ashes series.  ;)
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Re: Breaking: Trott retired from international cricket
« Reply #65 on: May 05, 2015, 11:18:31 AM »

Unbelievable comments on here regarding mental illness, regardless of whether it was proven or not.

The way I look at it is this:

Would I want to represent my country (or adopted country) at Elite Level? Yes.

Would I want to be away from my family, partner, friends, children (imaginary for this argument) for 6/8 months of the year? Not on your nelly!

Would I want to be in the media spotlight 24/7, be expected to be a role model and not being able to live a normal carefree life? Not a chance

Would I want to be in a position where I am expected to consistently perform at Elite Level for 10/15 years? Plain and simple, No.

For the most of us, we can have an off day and it will pass without much notice. Unfortunately when you are in the public eye, you are in a position where you are judged on every little aspect of your life.

I have enjoyed watching Trott as a player and always considered him one of England's nice guys. For me, it is the England selectors that have led to the end of Trott's career and in somewhat poor circumstances, not respective of his excellent career.
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Re: Breaking: Trott retired from international cricket
« Reply #66 on: May 05, 2015, 11:42:32 AM »

Prince or Trott?
Peterson or Trott?
Rudolph or Trott?
Elgar or Trott?

Thats a whole lotta Trott...
Still talking outta your (No Swearing Please)?

Until Prince got injured and was forced to open, he was one of the best middle order batsmen in the world.
Peterson and Elgar specialist openers, Trott couldn't hack it as an opener.
You might have a point about Rudolph, but if he was so crap why did the Yorkshire board sign him up?
Trott wasn't good enough for SA. Period.
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Re: Breaking: Trott retired from international cricket
« Reply #67 on: May 05, 2015, 11:55:21 AM »

Still talking outta your (No Swearing Please)?

NAh mate, I leave that to you. 

Until Prince got injured and was forced to open, he was one of the best middle order batsmen in the world.
Peterson and Elgar specialist openers, Trott couldn't hack it as an opener.
You might have a point about Rudolph, but if he was so crap why did the Yorkshire board sign him up?
Trott wasn't good enough for SA. Period.

Prince wasn't one of the best anything.  At no point would he have gotten in the England side - and thats saying quite a lot.

I don't entirely buy the opening argument as regards the others but if you want to look at it that way - how many tests have you given JP Duminy now?  Because I'll wager noone is going to argue that he is better than Trott...
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Re: Breaking: Trott retired from international cricket
« Reply #68 on: May 05, 2015, 12:10:42 PM »

Apropos of the troll, watching Prince and Duminy (try to) play Swann last time in South Africa was one of the funniest things I've seen.
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Re: Breaking: Trott retired from international cricket
« Reply #69 on: May 05, 2015, 12:33:09 PM »

Still talking outta your (No Swearing Please)?

Until Prince got injured and was forced to open, he was one of the best middle order batsmen in the world.
Peterson and Elgar specialist openers, Trott couldn't hack it as an opener.
You might have a point about Rudolph, but if he was so crap why did the Yorkshire board sign him up?
Trott wasn't good enough for SA. Period.

Rudolph - Yorkshire won the county championship when he left, need I say more.
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Re: Breaking: Trott retired from international cricket
« Reply #70 on: May 05, 2015, 12:36:01 PM »

Apropos of the troll, watching Prince and Duminy (try to) play Swann last time in South Africa was one of the funniest things I've seen.

Nearly as funny as Raina's 30 ball duck against Swann at the Oval. Anyone you thinks India play spin well (currently), should watch that :-)

We miss Swann  :(
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Re: Breaking: Trott retired from international cricket
« Reply #71 on: May 05, 2015, 01:14:18 PM »

All valid points - the only reason Trott gets put down - at least in my opinion - is that where others such as Trescothick and Yardy dealt with their illues with candour and dignity, Trott put the whole cause back years when he insisted on childishly claiming that he hadn't suffered a mental illness at all...

I seem to recall that when Trott returned from Oz he was told by a Psychologist he was suffering  from burn out.
It was not until much later that he was Diagnosed as suffering from situational anxiety I believe it it was called.
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Re: Breaking: Trott retired from international cricket
« Reply #72 on: May 05, 2015, 02:08:40 PM »

IMO Trott was a great batsman, coming back into the International level he should have been playing a bit lower down the order, coming back and playing an opener was a big challenge, unfortunately he succumbed. I have a doubt, not too sure selectors wanted him to return to International cricket and play well for England or they gave him an opener slot to make sure he performs badly and never plays for the country again.
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Re: Breaking: Trott retired from international cricket
« Reply #73 on: May 05, 2015, 03:34:16 PM »

He should have been made to wait until a middle order slot opened up for him. For me, there was no difference between Trott's mental illness and a player losing his spot through injury.
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Re: Breaking: Trott retired from international cricket
« Reply #74 on: May 05, 2015, 03:38:13 PM »

Trott was a quality player for England, It is a shame he had the issues over in Australia. However England are at fault for shoving him back into the team as an opener. They should have put him in the middle order and gone that way.
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