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Re: Lords - Ashes Second test (also the Shane Watson video thread)
« Reply #195 on: July 19, 2015, 04:29:09 PM »

Did England not know that Aussie had left arm seamers that bowl over 90mph? These guys get paid to train basically 24/7 and you're telling me they aren't 'used to' left arm quick?

You can practice with a bowling machine set like a left armer cranked up at 95mph.

What the machine cannot replicate is a ball exploding off a length that gets big on you and is zeroing in on your face.

I don't care who you are, that is going to always present a problem.
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Re: Lords - Ashes Second test (also the Shane Watson video thread)
« Reply #196 on: July 19, 2015, 04:30:51 PM »

bairstow scored another 100 today, get the form guy in for ballance!
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« Reply #197 on: July 19, 2015, 04:33:22 PM »

Very true. Seems MJ has proven that even when the English try to dish up a 'lifeless' pitch he can still find life in it. I'd say the only way to combat him would be to produce green seamers so the English bowlers have a hope of taking wickets!

Should be a very entertaining third test.
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Re: Lords - Ashes Second test (also the Shane Watson video thread)
« Reply #198 on: July 19, 2015, 04:42:17 PM »

Very true. Seems MJ has proven that even when the English try to dish up a 'lifeless' pitch he can still find life in it. I'd say the only way to combat him would be to produce green seamers so the English bowlers have a hope of taking wickets!

Should be a very entertaining third test.

Cook asked for a green-top at Edgbaston at the presentations. So, you can bet that what Cook wants, Cook gets.
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Re: Lords - Ashes Second test (also the Shane Watson video thread)
« Reply #199 on: July 19, 2015, 04:42:20 PM »

Blow away in this game well done Australia can't grumble.

Lyth looks shot his dropped catch sums him up currently as does Ballance.

Be interesting, listening to the sky commentators there all talking about Ballance and a return for Haddin will Australia change there side time for ENGLAND to maybe a few tweeks.

Good game seen the film gone in 60 seconds this was gone in 60 minutes no other words to describe it really.
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Re: Lords - Ashes Second test (also the Shane Watson video thread)
« Reply #200 on: July 19, 2015, 04:55:53 PM »

I don't think we'll see much in the way of changes from Aus for the next test.

For England, Lyth and Ballance seem to be struggling with the fear of the Aussie quicks, not getting on to the front foot and bell has no form at all. He appeared jittery at the crease and far from positive.

There is also the question on the bowling. Wood was way down on pace this morning. Is he injured?

Given all of these things, who do you bring in? Has bairstow resolved his technical issues? Who should open with Cook? Is Footit good enough for England?


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Re: Lords - Ashes Second test (also the Shane Watson video thread)
« Reply #201 on: July 19, 2015, 05:54:42 PM »

On wood, he has ankle issues and needs to be rested.
You can't drop 3 of the top 4 at most one.
What I would do is bring in Barstow at 7 and keep. Put root at 3, buttler at 4 and bell at 5.
Drop ballance  and lyth and bring in Hales. With a license to take these guys on.

The Barstow technical issues was a myth, like Hales, he played one bad shot and was labelled.
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Re: Lords - Ashes Second test (also the Shane Watson video thread)
« Reply #202 on: July 19, 2015, 06:01:18 PM »

On wood, he has ankle issues and needs to be rested.
You can't drop 3 of the top 4 at most one.
What I would do is bring in Barstow at 7 and keep. Put root at 3, buttler at 4 and bell at 5.
Drop ballance  and lyth and bring in Hales. With a license to take these guys on.

The Barstow technical issues was a myth, like Hales, he played one bad shot and was labelled.
Buttler at 4? He's a limited overs slogger with a terrible technique. He'll be even more of a liability up the order.

Bairstow is a decent batsman against medium pace. Australia won't be serving up much of that.
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Re: Lords - Ashes Second test (also the Shane Watson video thread)
« Reply #203 on: July 19, 2015, 06:10:40 PM »

I think everyone is panicking a bit of I'm honest. How many people were calling for changes this time last week? Australia outplayed England over 3 and a bit days, embarrassing yes but to be expected from a relatively young side who will have their ups and downs. Bell's form is a worry but other than bairstow no-one is really knocking on the door.

Please fellow England fans, remember this isn't football
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Re: Lords - Ashes Second test (also the Shane Watson video thread)
« Reply #204 on: July 19, 2015, 06:12:21 PM »

On wood, he has ankle issues and needs to be rested.
You can't drop 3 of the top 4 at most one.
What I would do is bring in Barstow at 7 and keep. Put root at 3, buttler at 4 and bell at 5.
Drop ballance  and lyth and bring in Hales. With a license to take these guys on.

The Barstow technical issues was a myth, like Hales, he played one bad shot and was labelled.

Buzz have you been on the sauce in the sun today? Buttler at 4 in test cricket seems very generous. Get yourself a coffee mate :-)
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Re: Lords - Ashes Second test (also the Shane Watson video thread)
« Reply #205 on: July 19, 2015, 06:17:34 PM »

Buttler is better  and more talented than anyone realises. He needs to be given a role and to show his talent.
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Re: Lords - Ashes Second test (also the Shane Watson video thread)
« Reply #206 on: July 19, 2015, 06:26:58 PM »

Congratulations Australia - you boys gave us one hell of a beating. You're looking menacing, but thankfully it's still 1-1.

On that note, I think it's not panicking to change at least 2 batters who seem woefully out of nick and confidence - we have a series to win here. As much as I am not a Bell fan, I would keep him in and swap out Lyth and Ballance. Compton to open anyone?

If Wood is not fully fit, then he;s out - but don't try and replicate the Aussies by bringing in left-field Footitt. Just pick the next guy off the rank who's in form. I wouldn't mind Brooks getting a shout.

Oh, for a decent spinner - I do fear for Ali long-term. Come on you young English tweakers, there' a place to be had!
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Re: Lords - Ashes Second test (also the Shane Watson video thread)
« Reply #207 on: July 19, 2015, 06:30:14 PM »

I'm a member of a Kent supporters group on Facebook and whilst they talk tripe at the best of times there is a thread going of genuine opinion that James tredwell should get a recall......
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Re: Lords - Ashes Second test (also the Shane Watson video thread)
« Reply #208 on: July 19, 2015, 06:51:59 PM »

I think everyone is panicking a bit of I'm honest. How many people were calling for changes this time last week? Australia outplayed England over 3 and a bit days, embarrassing yes but to be expected from a relatively young side who will have their ups and downs. Bell's form is a worry but other than bairstow no-one is really knocking on the door.

Please fellow England fans, remember this isn't football

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See:https://collythorpe.wordpress.com/2015/07/15/ashes-panel-005-my-lords-poetry-and-positions-regrets-and-decisions/
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Re: Lords - Ashes Second test (also the Shane Watson video thread)
« Reply #209 on: July 19, 2015, 08:26:45 PM »

agree with Buzz here , we need to bring buttler up the order , drop lyth and bell and make our order look more like this.
Hales
Cook
Root
Bairstow
Ballance
Stokes
Buttler wk
Ali/Rashid?
Broad
Another Bowler
Anderson
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