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[Number4]

I see Australia have some interesting up and coming cricketers.

Tom Healy - Australian u/19's wicket keeper - Son of Ian
Austin Waugh - Australian u/16's squad - 4 for 8 in the recent state championships to gain selection - Son of Steve
Jake Doran - Australian u/19's - just scored a century in the  1st innings and 76 in the 2nd in the one off test against England
Jordan Gauci - Australian u/19's - also scored a century in the same test against England
Celeb Jewel - Australian u/19's - Also a century in the same test against England
Jhye Richardson -Australian u/19's - took a 5fer in the 1st innings and also scored 87.

Interesting to see if any of these guys can take the next step.

I don't know much about the England youth teams so feel free to share here.

[Nmcgee]

I've had the pleasure of spending a little time with Jake Doran. Great young bloke, U19 captain and has been simply brilliant over the last 12 months.

If I was a betting man, I think he will be playing for Australia in the next Ashes series.

[iand123]

How many players do you think will not play test cricket again from this squad? Pointing said it could be 8. Clarke, haddin, Rogers, Voges, Watson, siddle (surely can't count Harris!)

[Alvaro]

Bit soon No.4? Nice to see nepotism is strong in Aussie cricket too... But the fall away of u19 players means it's often hard to track progress. Maybe a slight change of approach rather than players? But, it's the first tour for Hazlewood, who'll hopefully learn.

Australia A have been playing too. Khawaja is captain... There's a line on their thinking?

Jordan Silk might be one?

What do ou think of Ponting's call to get the Duke ball into Shield cricket?

[ProCricketer1982]

Is it a case that the talent simply isn't out there or is it that the talent is but because 2020 and one day 'skills' are now more valuable to a player and club, players simply are not growing up/learning to value their wicket ? Warner has a good test record but he's not really a test opener, he's a one day player. Is his avg down to poorer bowling or flat wickets (which allow his one day stroke play)?

Go through other test sides and you see the same issue arising, hence these one sided, quick scoring tests. Is the art of test match batting being lost? I believe the system simply isn't set up to breed cultured players who bat long and value their wicket.. It's set up to breed one day players

[smilley792]

Glen maxwell got 140 for Yorkshire yesterday and bowls some half decent off spin.


Could be Aussies moeen Ali. Bat at 8 and bowl some s##t ball wickets

[Nmcgee]

Is it a case that the talent simply isn't out there or is it that the talent is but because 2020 and one day 'skills' are now more valuable to a player and club, players simply are not growing up/learning to value their wicket ? Warner has a good test record but he's not really a test opener, he's a one day player. Is his avg down to poorer bowling or flat wickets (which allow his one day stroke play)?

Go through other test sides and you see the same issue arising, hence these one sided, quick scoring tests. Is the art of test match batting being lost? I believe the system simply isn't set up to breed cultured players who bat long and value their wicket.. It's set up to breed one day players

I reckon you're spot on here. It's becoming increasingly rare to see tests last 5 days and players, generally speaking, don't have the mentality to dig in for long stints at the crease. Many test hundreds are now coming at a S/R of 100.

[Number4]

Bit soon No.4? Nice to see nepotism is strong in Aussie cricket too... But the fall away of u19 players means it's often hard to track progress. Maybe a slight change of approach rather than players? But, it's the first tour for Hazlewood, who'll hopefully learn.

Australia A have been playing too. Khawaja is captain... There's a line on their thinking?

Jordan Silk might be one?

What do ou think of Ponting's call to get the Duke ball into Shield cricket?

Not sure about the nepotism, I have heard good things about both but have not seen a lot of either in the flesh.

I'd love to see Australia give one of the young guns a crack in a high profile game like the last test.... I know they won't and maybe shouldn't but it would be great for the game I think

I don't think the duke ball in Australia would make a massive difference to the game so either ball for me

[skip1973]

Dukes ball won't last on our wickets.

[smokem]

Is it a case that the talent simply isn't out there or is it that the talent is but because 2020 and one day 'skills' are now more valuable to a player and club, players simply are not growing up/learning to value their wicket ? Warner has a good test record but he's not really a test opener, he's a one day player. Is his avg down to poorer bowling or flat wickets (which allow his one day stroke play)?

Go through other test sides and you see the same issue arising, hence these one sided, quick scoring tests. Is the art of test match batting being lost? I believe the system simply isn't set up to breed cultured players who bat long and value their wicket.. It's set up to breed one day players

Another side effect is that if there aren't any tours in the off season, there's a 20-20 tournament somewhere where they can earn extra bucks belting balls around a tiny ground. Gone are the days when many of the top players go and play county in the off season. The likes of Rogers and Voges only played county because they weren't in the national side until recently.

[keysersolze]

World cricket needs a strong Australian test side!! All that's needed is guys need to do their apprenticeship young like Gilly and langer did by playing in England as a youth player at a reasonably high level so you know what it is like to play with the Dukes ball and on English wickets!! Also maybe landing in England a month or two before the first Ashes  test would help!! As I seem to remember Australia playing Somerset, Glostershire in early June a few years back around the 5th as Australia were normally always booked into the Royal Marriott in Bristol for the first two weeks of June.

[iand123]

I wonder if the Aussies and Indians will send (and pay) for young players to play in the English county setup going forward? Both have been found out on recent tours where the conditions are alien to them. I just can't see how they are going to combat it otherwise.

[smilley792]

I wonder if the Aussies and Indians will send (and pay) for young players to play in the English county setup going forward? Both have been found out on recent tours where the conditions are alien to them. I just can't see how they are going to combat it otherwise.

Australians may contemplate it as the ashes is massive and a win in a 5 game series over here would be a huge story and incentive for kids in there own country.


The Indians, well I'm not sure they'd care if they got drubbed over here aslong as the t20 side win and the ipl continues........

[Number4]

The u/19's just played over their and by the look of the score card did quite well with 3 centurions. Game ended in a draw but Aus were on top for most of the game. But you guys are right we need to be playing more county cricket as they did in the past eras

[smilley792]

Rogers and vogues have played county.


Maxwell is playing for Yorkshire, finch did last year was meant to this.

Faulkner is at lancs.

Think henriques was just a t20 spot for Surrey.


Is any other Aussies playing over here at mo?