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Re: England vs Australia ODI series
« Reply #150 on: September 05, 2015, 07:10:27 PM »

 Stokes trying to protect himself No way could he have known if the fast and hard throw would have hit the stumps or not also not in the spirit of cricket but should we be surprised after all this is  unsporting Austrialia.
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Re: England vs Australia ODI series
« Reply #151 on: September 05, 2015, 07:13:43 PM »

How many more failures will Woakes be allowed   with both bat and ball before he's dropped.
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Re: England vs Australia ODI series
« Reply #152 on: September 05, 2015, 07:59:05 PM »

I think the decision to appeal for the obstructing the field is a disgrace!

That said, wold England have done the same in that position......100%

The Aussies are wounded because they lost the Ashes so will do whatever it takes to win something this tour.

I will take the ashes win but this just leaves a very sour taste because we are England fans. Poor day for cricket but it's in the laws and the decision was made
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Re: England vs Australia ODI series
« Reply #153 on: September 05, 2015, 08:19:42 PM »

To me stokes knew he couldn't get back, and knew he couldn't turn in the line of the stumps either so threw his hand up to stop the ball. Of it was actually at then I'd buy self defence, the fact it it wasn't and he could easily dove out the way anyway and if he's run out, so be it. He knew he couldn't get out so took a risk and the aussiesmknew it.


Spirit of cricket is dead, no point bleeting on about it in the pro game.mspirit is there for the amateur game . You see it all the time, batsmen run between bat and ball like the old days or turn in from of the stumps when like starc, people shy.. All obstructing the field but we get away with it due to weak umpiring. More should be given out to stop it, until people learn not to run between ball and stumps
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Re: England vs Australia ODI series
« Reply #154 on: September 05, 2015, 08:32:50 PM »

To me stokes knew he couldn't get back, and knew he couldn't turn in the line of the stumps either so threw his hand up to stop the ball. Of it was actually at then I'd buy self defence, the fact it it wasn't and he could easily dove out the way anyway and if he's run out, so be it. He knew he couldn't get out so took a risk and the aussiesmknew it.


Spirit of cricket is dead, no point bleeting on about it in the pro game.mspirit is there for the amateur game . You see it all the time, batsmen run between bat and ball like the old days or turn in from of the stumps when like starc, people shy.. All obstructing the field but we get away with it due to weak umpiring. More should be given out to stop it, until people learn not to run between ball and stumps

He must have the quickest thought process in the world to be able to do all that in about .25 of a second. Clearly a reaction and nothing more. Wasn't even looking at the ball and had his eyes closed. Just a shame poor umpiring and poor sportsmanship from the Aussies had such an impact on the game, at least the crowd had some fun from it. Would he have smashed the winning runs, possibly not but who knows. Hopefully England will bounce back and build on the starts. Only a decent knock from a couple away from a win. Few not performing but when they do it will be like the nz series
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Re: England vs Australia ODI series
« Reply #155 on: September 05, 2015, 08:39:15 PM »

He must have the quickest thought process in the world to be able to do all that in about .25 of a second. Clearly a reaction and nothing more. Wasn't even looking at the ball and had his eyes closed. Just a shame poor umpiring and poor sportsmanship from the Aussies had such an impact on the game, at least the crowd had some fun from it. Would he have smashed the winning runs, possibly not but who knows. Hopefully England will bounce back and build on the starts. Only a decent knock from a couple away from a win. Few not performing but when they do it will be like the nz series

He manges to react to quick bowling and take blinding catches so his reactions are decent enough to dive out the way. He just knew that by getting out the way he'd be run out so took the gamble and used his hand. Others may have turned towards the stumps to block them (which is also out). It's unfortunate and rare but it was still out
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Re: England vs Australia ODI series
« Reply #156 on: September 05, 2015, 08:43:20 PM »

IMO it was out. no love lost between bruce's and nigel's. On the plus side this is a far far far more interesting ODI side than that monstrosity at the world cup !!
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Re: England vs Australia ODI series
« Reply #157 on: September 05, 2015, 09:06:18 PM »

Having now seen it i dont see how anyone can say in a split second he deliberatley blocked the ball from the stumps.
Its just a reaction-yes starc was aiming at stumps rather than the man thou.
I would LIKE to think an England captain may withdraw the appeal...
Smith would of been better appraoching the umpires and been less agressive-he clearly had words with Morgan
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Re: England vs Australia ODI series
« Reply #158 on: September 05, 2015, 09:32:19 PM »

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but he doesn't have super human reactions. Someone throwing a ball from 17 yards away he's not going to be able to see where the ball is going, just that its in the vicinity of his head/him. Reacting to catches and fast bowling he would have had a lot more time. Taking catches/ batting is a reaction and instinct half the time. His instinct to throw his hands up and flale wildly in hope of protecting himself. I also don't think the ball was actually hitting the stumps anyway. Common sense should have prevailed. Unfortunately the umpires didn't see it that way.

Let's just hope the boys build on their starts and the bowlers start to perform. It will only take a few performances to get to where we were against nz. In those games we clicked, these we aren't
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Re: England vs Australia ODI series
« Reply #159 on: September 05, 2015, 10:19:08 PM »

Next season is going to be unbearable because of this. Appeal after appeal for obstruction because 'remember it happened to Stokesy lads'
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Re: England vs Australia ODI series
« Reply #160 on: September 05, 2015, 10:20:27 PM »

Next season is going to be unbearable because of this. Appeal after appeal for obstruction because 'remember it happened to Stokesy lads'

People said that about the mankad. But it never happened.


Games are on sky, not that many actually watching?
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Re: England vs Australia ODI series
« Reply #161 on: September 05, 2015, 10:31:46 PM »

Another dominant victory for Australia, outclassing England with bat and ball. Something like 28-3 in last 31 ODIs.

Smith, Marsh and Cummings where top draw.

England have far too many passengers in their side. All this nonsense about 'New England' where pie in the sky. Flogging around an under strength Kiwi attack boosted their egos nothing more. Hales, Woakes and Ali offer nothing.

Shame Warner and Watson got injured, but good to see Finch get recalled and hoping to see Agar get a gig at Manchester.

As for the Stokes incident, scorebook says out. Live with it.
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Re: England vs Australia ODI series
« Reply #162 on: September 05, 2015, 11:12:32 PM »

I really don't think Morgan is the right choice for captain
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Re: England vs Australia ODI series
« Reply #163 on: September 05, 2015, 11:15:42 PM »

Just watched the Stokes incident and it certainly is a line ball call... It's hard to say whether it was on purpose but if he didn't stop it with his hand he would have been run out so probably a fair result in the end even if it was controversial
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Re: England vs Australia ODI series
« Reply #164 on: September 05, 2015, 11:23:49 PM »

Stokes trying to protect himself No way could he have known if the fast and hard throw would have hit the stumps or not also not in the spirit of cricket but should we be surprised after all this is  unsporting Austrialia.

Who is this country Austrialia you talk of? And unsporting is a big call coming from a country who used a bowling tactic to actually injure batsmen because they didn't know what to do to stop a master batsman scoring 100 after 100 against them. Using the excuse of Don Bradman was a cover because the tactic wasn't used just against him it was used against the whole team and the aim was to injure the batsmen
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