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[Phoenix]

What happened to Watson @Aussie In England?

[potzy248]

I have no issue with Stokes' dismissal. Whether he did it out of reaction or not, he stopped the ball possibly getting him out. England need to get off their high horse. I recall very well when Collingwood let our (NZ) batsman be run out when Sidebottom tripped him up.

I had no issue with the mankat either. Batsman was warned and kept on doing it. 

[potzy248]

Smith, Marsh and Cummings where top draw.


Shame Warner and Watson got injured, but good to see Finch get recalled and hoping to see Agar get a gig at Manchester.

Marsh is definitely not top draw, he's very average.

Best thing for Oz is that Watson is out, he's absolute rubbish. Why does he keep getting opportunities.

[skip1973]

Umpires made the decision not the Aussies, same as any other appeal, if it's out it's out. Plenty of things can be put down to split second decisions, not sure what the fuss is he had to throw his hand out to get anywhere near the ball.

[jezza39]

What happened to Watson @Aussie In England?

He strained his calf, and Warner broke his thumb. Wonder who opens with Burns now? Wade and Finch would have to be at the top of the list.

[InternalTraining]

Did the third umpire really do his due diligence in determining Stokes' intent ( deliberate) blocking of the throw? I think not. He didn't replay the action in normal speed. He didn't consider the distance between the thrower and the batter. What is done is done but this was a decision made in haste. 3rd umpires need better training in handling these kind of incidents. 

[Number4]

Did the third umpire really do his due diligence in determining Stokes' intent ( deliberate) blocking of the throw? I think not. He didn't replay the action in normal speed. He didn't consider the distance between the thrower and the batter. What is done is done but this was a decision made in haste. 3rd umpires need better training in handling these kind of incidents.

How much more training can international umpires have?

[jezza39]

Did the third umpire really do his due diligence in determining Stokes' intent ( deliberate) blocking of the throw? I think not. He didn't replay the action in normal speed. He didn't consider the distance between the thrower and the batter. What is done is done but this was a decision made in haste. 3rd umpires need better training in handling these kind of incidents.

Stokes had enough time to completely pull his body out of the way, but left his hand up. I would agree with you if Stokes had been pulling his arm out of the way but he just hung it out. He was gone for all money if he didn't block that. Not that it really matters in teh course of the game, Stokes has been in rubbish form with the willow. This debate about the dismissal is just clouding the real problems with England in ODIs, once again the bowling at the death got carted. Apart from Woakes who really bowled well, England need to find a bowler who can bowl to a field and mix it up.

[FattusCattus]

Agreed - hand or no hand, we were still about 60 runs off the pace and well beaten.

However, I'm not unduly concerned, this is a young side learning the ropes against a pretty strong Aussie side. What we need is more consistency - Buttler and Stockes need to make more of their obvious batting talent, and one of the seamersneeds to start getting cunning in the middle overs.

[smilley792]

I'm gonna ignore the stokes malarkey as it was a non incident in my book. Time to Move on and all that. Nothing's gonna change and I doubt it will happen in this way for a long time.


2 games in. And roy > hales. Roy looks good composed and plays some proper shots. Any chance they will soon be calling for his promotion to test over hales??

Maybe if he scores runs in div 1 next season atleast.

England need Willey in there somewhere.


And although this side is far superior to the side in the wc, I think the two games so far has showed we are still very reliant on root to rotate the strike and keep the board ticking in the middle overs.

Amusingly sky have just said is I went to hit send "do you think Roy could open in tests?" 

[uknsaunders]

I have no issue with Stokes' dismissal. Whether he did it out of reaction or not, he stopped the ball possibly getting him out. England need to get off their high horse. I recall very well when Collingwood let our (NZ) batsman be run out when Sidebottom tripped him up.

Which he later apologised for and said he had made the wrong decision (think it was an ODI that England lost, so maybe it was easier to come clean).

I've only seen it once or twice on youtube but I think Stokes was unlucky, but didn't help himself with how he tried to dive back. I think it's nearly impossible in realtime to say he did that on purpose and that's my main issue with the umpires. I don't think common sense was applied at all.

Should the aussies of appealled or withdrawn it? Depends who you support.

[Seniorplayer]

Who is this country Austrialia you talk of? And unsporting is a big call coming from a country who used a bowling tactic to actually injure batsmen because they didn't know what to do to stop a master batsman scoring 100 after 100 against them. Using the excuse of Don Bradman was a cover because the tactic wasn't used just against him it was used against the whole team and the aim was to injure the batsmen

I don't really see how you can compare  the current Australian teams unsporting behaviour to England bowling a few leg stump  bouncers in 1932 but there you go and lets not forget the Aussies will soon be going home after losing the Ashes.

[kdale6]

I'm gonna ignore the stokes malarkey as it was a non incident in my book. Time to Move on and all that. Nothing's gonna change and I doubt it will happen in this way for a long time.


2 games in. And roy > hales. Roy looks good composed and plays some proper shots. Any chance they will soon be calling for his promotion to test over hales??

Maybe if he scores runs in div 1 next season atleast.

England need Willey in there somewhere.


And although this side is far superior to the side in the wc, I think the two games so far has showed we are still very reliant on root to rotate the strike and keep the board ticking in the middle overs.

Amusingly sky have just said is I went to hit send "do you think Roy could open in tests?"

Yeah I was thinking the same watching him in the last two games, if he gets his mind right ang focuses Roy looms a class act

[smilley792]

Buttler "rested" for rest of odi series. Bairstow to replace.


Hmmm

[Seniorplayer]

Another dominant victory for Australia, outclassing England with bat and ball. Something like 28-3 in last 31 ODIs.

Smith, Marsh and Cummings where top draw.

England have far too many passengers in their side. All this nonsense about 'New England' where pie in the sky. Flogging around an under strength Kiwi attack boosted their egos nothing more. Hales, Woakes and Ali offer nothing.

Shame Warner and Watson got injured, but good to see Finch get recalled and hoping to see Agar get a gig at Manchester.

As for the Stokes incident, scorebook says out. Live with it.

He's  right regarding Woakes