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Re: England opening positon
« Reply #30 on: August 16, 2015, 09:03:57 AM »

Bairstow hard to judge on 2 innings, but one of them was a well constructed 74. Can't remember a decent innings from buttler yet?


Who is the better glove men? If it's Bairstow and buttler continues to fail. What about dropping buttler giving the gloves to Bairstow and bringing in a left field player who can bat and bowl.

Say david Willey at 7... Or even mo to 7 and Willey at 8. Will add an extra dimension to bowling(left arm quick) and allow us to play two spinners and still have a 4 prong pace attack, and maintain the odi style 6 7 8 they seem to be aiming for.

Or is stokes, Ali, Willey too many all rounders in one side?
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Re: England opening positon
« Reply #31 on: August 16, 2015, 09:11:38 AM »

Willey is a bit Stokes lite for Tests. Really like hiis case for the ODIs though.

Buttler will come good. He's just got to get in line a bit more, I think.
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Re: England opening positon
« Reply #32 on: August 16, 2015, 09:12:54 AM »

I think we've got plenty of batting talent. Ballance (he'll be back) and Bell have been out of form, but we won the Ashes nevertheless.

I did think Bell's career may be coming to the end, but I'm glad to have been at least partially proven wrong.

Exciting times, I think. But we still do need to find a spinner (or two) and a convincing opening partner for Cook.
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Re: England opening positon
« Reply #33 on: August 16, 2015, 09:14:06 AM »

Willey is a bit Stokes lite for Tests. Really like hiis case for the ODIs though.

Buttler will come good. He's just got to get in line a bit more, I think.

Stokes-like is a bad thing?
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Re: England opening positon
« Reply #34 on: August 16, 2015, 09:15:54 AM »

When do you actually need two spinners? Maybe India, but England and SA have had success with just the one, and definitely Sri Lanka, who'll barely play England in Tests.

I agree about the opening bat, but Lyth looks alright.
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Re: England opening positon
« Reply #35 on: August 16, 2015, 09:26:02 AM »

When do you actually need two spinners? Maybe India, but England and SA have had success with just the one, and definitely Sri Lanka, who'll barely play England in Tests.

I agree about the opening bat, but Lyth looks alright.

You certainly need one when the other is injured. And Test cricket is evolving. The days of four-man attacks are gone.
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Re: England opening positon
« Reply #36 on: August 16, 2015, 09:45:04 AM »

True, but swing and cut is getting more valuable in a time of poor spin options.
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Re: England opening positon
« Reply #37 on: August 16, 2015, 10:00:01 AM »

English cricket ought to have plenty of decent spinners, regardless of how many play in the England team.
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Re: England opening positon
« Reply #38 on: August 16, 2015, 10:04:35 AM »

Willey is a bit Stokes lite for Tests.

Haha, you said Stokes-lite! Not Stokes-like! I am reading on my phone earlier.

David Willey is certainly not anything lite. He's heavy!
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Re: England opening positon
« Reply #39 on: August 16, 2015, 10:05:24 AM »

Bairstow hard to judge on 2 innings, but one of them was a well constructed 74. Can't remember a decent innings from buttler yet?


Who is the better glove men? If it's Bairstow and buttler continues to fail. What about dropping buttler giving the gloves to Bairstow and bringing in a left field player who can bat and bowl.

Say david Willey at 7... Or even mo to 7 and Willey at 8. Will add an extra dimension to bowling(left arm quick) and allow us to play two spinners and still have a 4 prong pace attack, and maintain the odi style 6 7 8 they seem to be aiming for.

Or is stokes, Ali, Willey too many all rounders in one side?

Leave it alone, please.
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Re: England opening positon
« Reply #40 on: August 16, 2015, 10:10:26 AM »

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Re: England opening positon
« Reply #41 on: August 16, 2015, 01:03:32 PM »

Buttler is going to be a superstar he should be untouched.
Also his keeping is vastly improved and is better than Bairstow now
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Re: England opening positon
« Reply #42 on: August 16, 2015, 02:29:19 PM »

Buttler is going to be a superstar he should be untouched.
Also his keeping is vastly improved and is better than Bairstow now

Buttler is a One Day player in my opinion. He's great at the limited overs stuff, but has not done anything at test level to prove he's capable of building an innings.
He may've made a few decent scores in whites, but they've all been in a situation where he can go out and swing. If he goes out and grinds out a score then fair play to him, but I honestly haven't seen any evidence Buttler is the man for test cricket.
As for keeping, Buttler may have improved but I still believe Bairstow is the superior glove man, I'd be more confident with him behind the sticks that snicks would stick.
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Re: England opening positon
« Reply #43 on: August 16, 2015, 07:19:13 PM »

Buttler is a One Day player in my opinion. He's great at the limited overs stuff, but has not done anything at test level to prove he's capable of building an innings.
He may've made a few decent scores in whites, but they've all been in a situation where he can go out and swing. If he goes out and grinds out a score then fair play to him, but I honestly haven't seen any evidence Buttler is the man for test cricket.
As for keeping, Buttler may have improved but I still believe Bairstow is the superior glove man, I'd be more confident with him behind the sticks that snicks would stick.

Didn't Buttler take a blinder in the last test.
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Re: England opening positon
« Reply #44 on: August 16, 2015, 07:30:27 PM »

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