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[uknsaunders]

I have a 2'8.5 bat with 38mm edges, 65mm spine and a full profile. People will look at it and say it's not a big bat. Somebody then posts a 2'12 bat with 40mm edges, 60mm spine with slight concaving and say it's huge. The volume might be near enough the same but one bat is hugely impressive for the weight but the other maybe isn't. I've seen some bats recently that look big but when you compare to other bats, either aren't or feel heavier. Is size in the eye of the beholder or do some batmakers trick us with profiles, small handles, large toes?

[GarrettJ]

thats a very big bat

[SOULMAN1012]

For you mate isn't anything about size 5 a big bat lol 

It's all visual mate 40odd mm is pretty normal now for any weight, the 50mm edge M&H were big big bats though

[uknsaunders]

The Kippax 50mm Collussus are big looking bats but it's more visual as the spine is only 55m and it's concaved. Starts around 2'11 I think. Smoke and mirrors (thinking back to long lost thread on edge v concaving) ie. it's the same volume of wood, or are these bats lightweight monsters?

[i12breakfree]

^^^ agree - 40 mm edge is the norm these days. Bats like Newbery Blitz  are big bats

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[Seniorplayer]

The key here is modern bat designs not size or weight having played in the 1970s today's  bats are no bigger or heavier than they were then what is different is the way the weight is distributed the density of the willow and the way bats are pressed.

[Akewstick]

Who's getting their tape measure out though? I've got a H4L everyone said was massive and after a season in the middle and a refurb, the edges are rounded, the face doesn't look as flat as it used to be, and nobody comments. I even think it looks a lot smaller, when in fact it's lost a 5th of an ounce.

It's not how big the edge is at it's biggest and lack of concaving and spine height, it's all of those things, and how long is the thickest bit of the edge? and how long is the spine? and how flat is the face and what are the stickers like and how big is the bow in it?

As I've learned from this forum, big doesn't not equal heavy, and attractive does not equal pingy, I don't care how big my bat is, I don't care how straight the grains are. I want the right weight, coverage, balance and performance. Now I overhear all the teenagers at my club yapping about that bat is huge!!! And looking up to see a kashmir willow bone-dry fake-stickered plank. I still like modern shapes, I've not been playing the game that long, but I think at the ripe old age of 27 it's time I stopped worrying about whether mine was as big as the other boys and crack on with what matters in life (cricket).

[northernboy1987]

It's weird isn't it, I've got a H4L Hellfire which looks huge (and it is) but if you go purely on edge size 41mm and 65mm spine at 3lb 2oz doesnt sound particularly huge but once you take into account a convex profile, spine which runs almost the full length of the bat and the fact that the shoulders and toe are both huge, you start to realise. But to the casual observer (my mrs in this case) my 2lb 13oz Tempo looks a lot bigger, I can only assume this is because the spine height is radically bigger than the edge size, even though the Tempo is slightly concaved and with a much thinner toe, shoulder and edges.

[smilley792]

Bat makers skill plus people's perception.


I have an oversized red ink. Big spine...75mm plus. But edges are less than average with abit of con caving.

On sat nobody would shut up about how big it was!! Ginormous this massive that. An oppo even suggested it wasn't legal.


Funny thing is. John said it was a heavy cleft and it would make a bat a lot smaller than he envisaged.

[smilley792]

The red ink




Angle of pic helps too.

[Alvaro]

Who's getting their tape measure out though? I've got a H4L everyone said was massive and after a season in the middle and a refurb, the edges are rounded, the face doesn't look as flat as it used to be, and nobody comments. I even think it looks a lot smaller, when in fact it's lost a 5th of an ounce.

It's not how big the edge is at it's biggest and lack of concaving and spine height, it's all of those things, and how long is the thickest bit of the edge? and how long is the spine? and how flat is the face and what are the stickers like and how big is the bow in it?

As I've learned from this forum, big doesn't not equal heavy, and attractive does not equal pingy, I don't care how big my bat is, I don't care how straight the grains are. I want the right weight, coverage, balance and performance. Now I overhear all the teenagers at my club yapping about that bat is huge!!! And looking up to see a kashmir willow bone-dry fake-stickered plank. I still like modern shapes, I've not been playing the game that long, but I think at the ripe old age of 27 it's time I stopped worrying about whether mine was as big as the other boys and crack on with what matters in life (cricket).

Have a General Melchett sized salute for that post young man

[WalkingWicket37]

To me the proper shape GM purist was a big bat!
The edges were tiny, but there was a nice high spine and plenty of wood in and around the middle. Most people tell me how small it is though (compared to their new bat, which has big edges but is concaved to within an inch of its life). Different strokes for different folks...

[Alvaro]

In my last league game, I used my Insignia for the first time. I'd only taken it to the ground to sneak in a net for prep for next year, but the opener broke his bat before I had chance and 'borrowed' my Hits Hard, at one down I had no choice to join him in the middle with my match virgin stick.

Now it ain't the biggest, but my goodness it's forgiving and ahead of schedule. Great bat maker and a bit of luck.... At 2.9, I win.

[Blank Bats]

Where will the edge fascination stop? We are at the 50mm junction, how much more can it go. Personally I think anything more than 35/37mm is poor wood distribution. But if demand for big edges is great, batmakers will meet that demand.

[petehosk]

There are some crazy clefts around! B3 at 2'6 and 40mm edges...seriously!?