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[gaurav23]

That was Sunil gavaskar's last test match if am not wrong.
Don't see the harm in thrillers cuz it means they can go either way. Plus, if you're a top team - you gotta make sure you travel well. India couldn't & it reflects in their ranking.
& not they twas a surprise for South Africa anyway. Any team coming to the subcontinent know what to expect, just that it started a lil early this time.


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[tate035]

Warne, swanny, mushy & monty - well I am sure India would have made a lot more than 200 with Sachin, sehwag, dravid & Laxman on the other end - Haha
Green top, class thingy - well, it still stands for a turning track. Can't expect similar tracks everywhere.
Regards to injuries to the SA players - don't wana blame kohli for that am sure.
Raging bias - you need a life !! [emoji12][emoji16]


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Sachin, Laxman etc. Don't know how old you are but I don't remember seeing one pitch in.India offer this much spin and low bounce when Warne was bowling against the cream of Indian batting. Also remind me how India got on against England on less turning pitches a few years ago when Monty got most of the so called superstars out on slightly turning wickets.
I have no problem with teams using the conditions to their advantage but turning 2ft on the 1st day (in both tests) isn't really what test match cricket is about.
Oh yes! remind me how well the Indian's have played in English conditions recently.. Or in SA either...
Like I said, hats off to Kohli for using the advantage but FOR ME, it's just not cricket..

[brokenbat]

It absolutely is cricket. South Africa just can't handle it. "Cricket" doesn't mean teams have to play fair. As I said earlier, you wouldn't see these pitches had pakistan been touring instead of SA.

[gaurav23]

Well that's the thing - it ain't cricket for you but the ICC doesn't seem to have any obstruction to it cuz its prevalent everywhere.
Indians not doing too well abroad - I mentioned it & it reflects clearly.
India not doing too well on less turning pitches you say - well, they simply didn't adapt well enough. Period. No point accusing the commanded curators here - both teams play on the same track & are prepared well in advance for it all.


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[lazza32]

Sorry gurav but the pitch is crap period. The icc should crack down on these one sided pitches and that includes the latest pitch produced at the waca. Cricket is a game about bat vs ball not bat or ball

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[ppccopener]

It absolutely is cricket. South Africa just can't handle it. "Cricket" doesn't mean teams have to play fair. As I said earlier, you wouldn't see these pitches had pakistan been touring instead of SA.

interesting stuff brokenbat.....if Pakistan would of been touring instead of SA what pitches do you think would of been prepared?  are you saying India would magic up quick tracks because the PAK side can all play spin?

or a green English seamer like Trent Bridge?   

[gaurav23]

Never uttered the pitch was best ever. I just made a point that both teams play on the same strip which they very much are acquainted with well in advance. Needn't all be spectator point of view - 'TEST'


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[cricketbadger]

The pitch is a joke

As someone mentioned, never saw anything liek this when King Sachin was up against Warne or Murali.

The ICC need to clamp down on this type of behaviour and quick. Spoiling the game as a spectacle, is it any wonder people doubt whether Test cricket is the pinnacle anymore when you see pitches and games unfolding like this. I play on some gash decks in my local league, but I'd be gutted to rock up and play on that

[sfa82]

I think we have seen the two extremes in the current series ie Aus vs NZ and Ind vs SA. These type of pitches will naturally cause debate and the one important question for me is does it add value to the Test cricket brand at a time where Test cricket is competing with T20 and ODI cricket for attention. What makes a good Test pitch?

As a South African supporter it hurts that we are struggling like this to score runs. 300 + chase seems a long way away. One thing is guaranteed is that there will be a result.

[brokenbat]

interesting stuff brokenbat.....if Pakistan would of been touring instead of SA what pitches do you think would of been prepared?  are you saying India would magic up quick tracks because the PAK side can all play spin?

or a green English seamer like Trent Bridge?   

we'll cross that bridge when we get there...which will be never, because the BCCI is being a (insert word that rhymes with hunt) about playing Pak

[MD2812]

This pitch is embarrising!!
There is home advantage, this is way beyond that.

Home advantage would be a pitch would be a raging turner on day 5 maybe day 4. Not from day 1.
Watched the highlights and you're getting puffs of dust from seamers in the first session!!!

I'll give India benefit of the doubt and believe they asked for a turning pitch but the groundsman got it wrong.

Same as the last 2 Trent Bridge tests. Clearly a 5 day pitch was wanted against India and what a bore that test was.
Wanted a bowling friendly wicket and got the greentop this Ashes. Although no Aussies batted to the conditions on that day.


This is why I'm a big fan of what they're doing in LVCC div 2 next season, give the away team the toss. Then you'll get friendlier pitches to some extent. I hope it's deemed a success and ran out across all of UK cricket for 2017. Then maybe it'll catch ICCs attention, probably not.

No wicket should be turning in such a manner that a spinner bowls 4th over of the games 2nd innings and turns in 2 feet.

As for @brokenbat crikect, I see the spirit of cricket is lost on you! :

"Cricket" doesn't mean teams have to play fair"

[edge]

India (and their fans, judging by tinternet) have become so convinced that their horrific performances overseas are due to 'doctored green-tops'  that it looks like this kind of rubbish is all we'll be seeing there for the foreseeable future. When South African spinners are routinely bowling Indian teams out at home for 200ish, you know the pitches are crap. No batsman from either side has passed 40 in this match! For all the talk of India being cheated abroad by 'green-tops', England/Aus/SA were piling runs on those pitches - can't be that bad can they. Dravid scored bucket-loads of runs last time he played in England, just because the rest of the team weren't up to it doesn't mean the pitch was unplayable. Paranoia and unwillingness to adapt to foreign conditions have led to this, and India will likely carry on getting destroyed abroad.
Unfortunately the ICC clearly won't be stepping in after this series to warn India about the pitches!

[MD2812]

A good read @edge

I think the reason India struggle abroad now is with the IPL you don't get any Indian players playing First Class cricket abroad, so now getting a chance to know those conditions.

India wants to do well over here? Get Kohli to follow this mans steps, he turned out to be a not-bad cricketer.

[edge]

A good read @edge

I think the reason India struggle abroad now is with the IPL you don't get any Indian players playing First Class cricket abroad, so now getting a chance to know those conditions.

India wants to do well over here? Get Kohli to follow this mans steps, he turned out to be a not-bad cricketer.

Thanks mate. Agreed, pints of bitter do wonders for your sporting ability!

[sanredrose]

Pitches should be prepared to favor the home team. Visitors should beat the home team by overcoming their home advantage. This is what makes a series exciting and interesting. However the Nagpur pitch is a travesty. Indian cricket team requested a pitch to favor the home team and its understandable that curators made a spin friendly pitch. I guess someone forgot to tell them that the test match must be played for 5 days ... 

Imran Tahir as a third option is understandable, however SA's insistence in bowling Harmer for longer spells is quite confusing as well. Harmer starts bowling short balls when he is tired and this was the major reason why Jadeja was able to score 38 in the first innings. Amla needs to get his mojo back. Dude is seriously down in motivation since his batting is also lending him a helping hand. This series is a forgettable one for Amla.

ICC big three (BCCI, ECB & CA) have planned this carefully . India will mentally break down the SA team and England will run through the SA line up in ENG vs SA test series ! Good luck England. Despite home advantage, its clear that many of SA batsman aren't in good form. Exploit them and win the series ....