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[App999]

Anyone know what the maximum possible spine height on an oversized/supersized cleft is?

[smilley792]

On ones h4l sell on eBay it stats 85mm

But on a few I've bought the spine is off centre slightly so in the real work it's between 75mm-80 mm you can get out of the cleft.


But even then the cleft is so heavy, you can't concave or get the edges any lower that you have to lose more from the spine to get it to a decent weight.

[App999]

On ones h4l sell on eBay it stats 85mm

But on a few I've bought the spine is off centre slightly so in the real work it's between 75mm-80 mm you can get out of the cleft.


But even then the cleft is so heavy, you can't concave or get the edges any lower that you have to lose more from the spine to get it to a decent weight.

That's what I have been told by B3 around the 80mm mark. Warners bat he used at the WACA looked like the spine was around the 90-100mm mark.
I'd love to see a comparison between an oversized and supersized cleft. 

[Northern monkey]

Warners bats have as much moisture as possible taken out of them, to get the dead weight down .
I've yet to see a convincing argument for huge spines apart from the look of the bat

[App999]

Warners bats have as much moisture as possible taken out of them, to get the dead weight down .
I've yet to see a convincing argument for huge spines apart from the look of the bat

True that and as stated also by warner in his interview. Only reason I'm asking is that I am beginning to see more and more players using bats with huge spines nowadays then bats with big edges.

[Wickets-then-runs]

55mm edges are so 2014-15... 

[Northern monkey]

Would love to have a go with one of these bats
The b3 bats that have come out recently featuring this profile could be a way to generate bat speed with decent pickup
Whilst maintaining a good coverage of willow.

I would just question whether they would be effective on the dire low bounce wickets I play on
But you don't know until you have a go with one

[App999]

55mm edges are so 2014-15... 

hmmm whats more intimidating. A bat with a huge spine or monster edges haha

[procricket]

I guess there 3 types of oversized clefts

One with big edged
One with big spines
One with both.

GN cut there own willow so can make what they want.

[Simmy]

Kippax do daft size 1's as well

[eddiec]

Warners bats have as much moisture as possible taken out of them, to get the dead weight down .
I've yet to see a convincing argument for huge spines apart from the look of the bat

In theory, a large spine gives it an increase in stiffness from an engineering point of view, but I imagine the difference would be very small.

Edit: Actually, I just did some rough back-of-the-envelope calcs, and if you were to take off half of the spine on a bat like Warner's and spread the wood across the back evenly, it would make a significant difference to it's bending stiffness.

[procricket]

In theory, a large spine gives it an increase in stiffness from an engineering point of view, but I imagine the difference would be very small.

Edit: Actually, I just did some rough back-of-the-envelope calcs, and if you were to take off half of the spine on a bat like Warner's and spread the wood across the back evenly, it would make a significant difference to it's bending stiffness.

Hence the Zizi

All about the coverage not the size of spine!!!!