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Absolutley right..the jury has retired and now has till friday to deceide.If guilty or not,if it goes bad for Cairns its perjury and perverting the course of justice and by default he is guilty of match fixing-therefore being wide open to other charges.
I dont think myself anyone should underestimate the significance of this case.If 'everyone is doing it' and he gets a bad result he's going to try to cut a deal and land everyone else in the brown stuff right?
'Can of worms' does not being to describe it
My guess,as yours, there are a lot of players,officials and coaches currently very very nervous indeed...

yeah, he is surely going to try the plea bargain type route. lets see...

[Buzz]

Too late for that, plus that is less common in the UK

[i12breakfree]

So Amir gets Hafeez out in first 4 balls 0,0,0,W

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[Neon Cricket]

It's a hard one, yes he should never have done it but then he's also served his punishment so why not give him that second chance? Everyone makes mistakes...

I don't think Pakistan will be able to resist his talent, he'll be playing test soon

[Mel Jessop]

It's simple surely, you get caught, you get punished, you serve your time (just as a murderer/rapist/robber would do), what is the point in having a punishment if you then extend it after someone has done as they have been asked??

I know I've said it's simple but that is rather tongue in cheek tbh, but only in sport do we set punishments and then when they serve that punishment do we then tell them they can no longer do there job, a hair dresser  who maybe gets caught for shop lifting is not then told you've served your time but don't think your gonna pick up your clippers again!

[Byo]

The big difference between a sportsman and a hairdresser is that the sportsman is a role model to others. It's hardly setting a good example to other impressionable youngsters!!

They will see blatant cheating, getting financial reward for doing so (let's not be naive, he got paid), serve a small ban and then come back whilst still in your prime and earn loads more money

[ppccopener]

The big difference between a sportsman and a hairdresser is that the sportsman is a role model to others. It's hardly setting a good example to other impressionable youngsters!!

They will see blatant cheating, getting financial reward for doing so (let's not be naive, he got paid), serve a small ban and then come back whilst still in your prime and earn loads more money

yes but it's a very thin line if you're holding up sportsmen as role models,there's plenty of examples thru history of those who are not role models. Have you heard anything Tyson Fury has had to say lately? he's currently at the top of the tree that is sport,World Heavyweight Champion trumps most other sports.....

Have to say Amir is the only one of the three I reckon should be allowed to play again, only on the basis of his age and my own view,right or wrong, is he was heavily influenced by his Captain.

Amir has the chance now to educate youngsters on the mistakes he made,and to avoid them.In some ways he is the best person to do this and have credibility.

Where he takes that opportunity no one knows yet...

[Mel Jessop]

Yes you are right, and I knew the "role model" issue would come up, no it does not set a good example for anybody let alone youngsters, but they won't see blatant cheating getting rewarded, if the cheats are found out they will see a punishment and then maybe see a fair and just society, perhaps giving someone a second chance?

We all have a responsibility to be good role models, but sports ppl often forget this, it does not have to be illegal and cheating for it to be poor behaviour, just look at some of the antics footballers get upto by surrounding refs etc, is this not as poor a role model to youngsters as a blatant cheat and does this not encourage them to do the same?

He may earn loads of money still, but he will have missed out on loads more due to his punishment, I am one for giving second chances wether that is right or wrong I don't know but I guess that's why we discuss issues like this here..

[edge]

Plenty of professions ban people for life for misconduct, professional or otherwise. He's been given his ban and will come back, that can't be changed now, but he should have been banned for life, along with anyone else who dopes or makes deals with bookies. Sport is about fair  and honest competition, it becomes meaningless otherwise. Look at athletics/cycling/Pakistan cricket etc, however much progress is made there's still suspicion. Life bans would go a long way towards helping, zero tolerance.

[Byo]

Plenty of professions ban people for life for misconduct, professional or otherwise. He's been given his ban and will come back, that can't be changed now, but he should have been banned for life, along with anyone else who dopes or makes deals with bookies. Sport is about fair  and honest competition, it becomes meaningless otherwise. Look at athletics/cycling/Pakistan cricket etc, however much progress is made there's still suspicion. Life bans would go a long way towards helping, zero tolerance.

Could not agree more!

I have never said footballers are good role models, they are in my opinion quite the opposite. I have never been happier when my 9 year old said "footballers are horrible people", very glad he shows no interest in the sport.

[ppccopener]

you can always rely on the New Zealanders for a bit of down to earth humour

as Amir starts his bowling spell the ground announcer plays the sound of a cash register!!  hehe   

should'nt laugh really, England are of course whiter than the pure snow(!) but the Kiwi's have CHRIS CAIRNS   stones/glasshouses/etc/etc....

[InternalTraining]

I read today that the announcer was admonished by the New Zealand Cricket.

[Percy]

Plenty of professions ban people for life for misconduct, professional or otherwise. He's been given his ban and will come back, that can't be changed now, but he should have been banned for life, along with anyone else who dopes or makes deals with bookies. Sport is about fair  and honest competition, it becomes meaningless otherwise. Look at athletics/cycling/Pakistan cricket etc, however much progress is made there's still suspicion. Life bans would go a long way towards helping, zero tolerance.

Very nicely put and fully agree.

[dannyhall04]

Plenty of professions ban people for life for misconduct, professional or otherwise. He's been given his ban and will come back, that can't be changed now, but he should have been banned for life, along with anyone else who dopes or makes deals with bookies. Sport is about fair  and honest competition, it becomes meaningless otherwise. Look at athletics/cycling/Pakistan cricket etc, however much progress is made there's still suspicion. Life bans would go a long way towards helping, zero tolerance.

Nail > head. Couldn't agree more, Edge. Needs to be clear guidelines. We had much the same discussion in Sheffield when Ched Evans was released from prison.

[ProCricketer1982]

I assume he will play in England this year, just get the crowd shouting 'no ball' every time he bowls and waving money at him when fielding. Of course, no one will do it as he's 'such a talent' that can do no wrong but it would be amusing and at least show the big wigs that people don't appreciate cheats in the game