Topic: ECB confirms mandatory lid use. (Read 20074 times)

roco · « **Reply #15 on:** November 27, 2015, 11:44:40 AM »

Just re read press release

everyone within 8 yards of the middle stump has to wear a helmet bar behind wicket on off side

so leg slip and leg gully now have to wear helmets?

jamielsn15 · « **Reply #16 on:** November 27, 2015, 11:55:57 AM »

As an NGB do the ECB have the responsibility to all of those who play, to make the game safe to play, as a duty of care?

What if, by doing nothing, there were an incident next season where a player died and the ECB were seen to do nothing? We have a witch-hunt culture in the press and media in this country, demanding people's jobs for something far less than this. It's entirely plausable to think that a legal case could be made for negligence.

I can completely understand why they're doing it and I wouldn't be surprised if there will be little objection from the pros. Surely it's common sense?

It's not enforceable in the recreational game, in the same way you can't guarantee ambulance access to parks pitches for football and rugby games. But given the number of people on here alone that have bought stem guards, these habits will trickle down to the amateur game. In ten years time it will be a norm of the game. I genuinely don't see what the issue is...

WalkingWicket37 · « **Reply #17 on:** November 27, 2015, 12:09:50 PM »

Quote from: jamielsn15 on November 27, 2015, 11:55:57 AM

It's not enforceable in the recreational game, in the same way you can't guarantee ambulance access to parks pitches for football and rugby games. But given the number of people on here alone that have bought stem guards, these habits will trickle down to the amateur game. In ten years time it will be a norm of the game. I genuinely don't see what the issue is...

We are a forum full of kit badgers, I don't think you can take our buying habits as a fair reflection of all players lol
I don't expect to see that many stem guards at club level while you have to pay extra for them. However they'll likely be incorporated as part of a future helmet design, so will become standard at some point in the not too distant future I feel.

Ayrtek Cricket · « **Reply #18 on:** November 27, 2015, 01:40:55 PM »

You might see a few bits in the BBC/Sky today featuring a few products....

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WalkingWicket37 · « **Reply #19 on:** November 27, 2015, 02:01:04 PM »

@Ayrtek are your lids branded as Ayrtek again, or still Adidas and my eyes are playing tricks on me?

Ayrtek Cricket · « **Reply #20 on:** November 27, 2015, 02:07:22 PM »

Your eagle eyes may well be correct

Ayrtek Cricket · « **Reply #21 on:** November 27, 2015, 02:08:07 PM »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b06pwc7q/bbc-news-at-one-27112015

26.30 onwards

Mr_Orange · « **Reply #22 on:** April 13, 2016, 08:09:01 AM »

Just to bring this one up again...

I remembered that the ECB has enforced all players to wear helmets that meet to the new specification (http://www.ecb.co.uk/news/articles/ecb-announces-new-helmet-safety-measures and http://www.espncricinfo.com/england/content/story/944579.html) but then spotted Jonathan Trott wearing an old Masuri while watching the highlights of yesterday's play.

"From next season, all male and female cricketers playing in professional cricket matches will be required to use helmets which meet the latest British Safety Standard."
"Any player who does not wear what the ECB calls "compliant protective headgear" will not be permitted to play."

Guessing that they're not enforcing it fully then..?

WalkingWicket37 · « **Reply #23 on:** April 13, 2016, 09:43:09 AM »

Using last season's New Balance stickers too, that Trotty clearly does what he wants!

Calzehbhoy · « **Reply #24 on:** April 13, 2016, 10:46:36 AM »

Slightly off topic, but I quite like the Woodworm colour scheme on Bell's kit!

edge · « **Reply #25 on:** April 15, 2016, 06:36:57 AM »

Don't think anyone tells Trotty what to do!

He's not the only one either

Buzz · « **Reply #26 on:** April 15, 2016, 06:54:55 AM »

There is an article in the Times about cook on this subject today.
Umpires neglected to send cook back for a legal lid... Cook won't be able to wear his "lucky" lid again...

edge · « **Reply #27 on:** April 15, 2016, 06:59:46 AM »

Quote from: Buzz on April 15, 2016, 06:54:55 AM

There is an article in the Times about cook on this subject today.
Umpires neglected to send cook back for a legal lid... Cook won't be able to wear his "lucky" lid again...

Was interesting to read that the umpires/Essex were fully aware that Cook wasn't using an approved lid, sounds like noone fancied telling the England captain he had to wear a different one. Would put decent money on him walking out wearing that lid in the first test this summer!

For those of you who don't read the Times:

Quote from: The Times

Alastair Cook, the England cricket captain, should have been banned from batting for Essex this week after refusing to wear a helmet that meets new safety rules.

Under the latest England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) regulations, all male and female professional cricketers playing for England or representing their county in first and second XI matches must wear helmets with fixed grilles.

The move comes in response to a number of cases of cricketers being seriously injured by a ball bursting through the gap between the peak of the helmet and the protective grille.

Cook, however, is refusing to change from his old style of helmet to one that complies with the new standard. He began the domestic season playing for Essex against Gloucestershire in the Specsavers County Championship at Chelmsford wearing his England helmet, which had its badge taped over, rather than one with an Essex crest.

Umpires have been advised that they should not allow players onto the field if they know their helmet does not meet the new rules, although the responsibility for proactively checking whether the helmet is legal lies with the cricketer and the team management. That would put the responsibility on England to stop Cook going out to bat in the first Test against Sri Lanka next month unless he agrees to change.

His current England helmet is a pre-2013 design, which has a larger gap and an adjustable grille and has not undergone the rigorous testing as set out in the protective headgear directive issued by the ECB in November.

The regulations also state that professional cricketers have to wear a helmet when batting � even against spin � when wicketkeeping standing up to the wicket, or fielding close to the bat. It is understood the ECB and the match umpires in this week�s County Championship second division match at Chelmsford were aware that Cook�s helmet was illegal but decided not to force him to change it.

Despite being informed of the directive and the increased safety of the new helmets, Cook has refused to change for either first-class or international matches. The Times understands that at an ECB briefing to first-class counties on the new directive at the beginning of 2016, the specific issue of Cook�s helmet was raised by one county and the ECB implied he would not be changing.

The directive was issued in light of a joint review by the ECB and the Professional Cricketers� Association of existing safety guidance after injuries to Stuart Broad and Craig Kieswetter, who had to retire as a result of eye damage caused by a ball going through the gap between his grille and helmet.

As a result of those and other incidents, new helmets must have undergone rigorous testing in relation to the gap between the top of the grille and the peak of the helmet and the resilience of the grille. It must be fixed in position rather than being adjustable as it was previously.

After the tragic death of Phillip Hughes, the Australian batsman who died in November 2014 from bleeding on the brain as a result of a ball striking the back of his head, many cricketers have decided to have a neck protector added to their batting helmet, although this is not a requirement under the new directive.

All first-class counties have bought compliant helmets for their players and have been advised to ensure spares that meet safety standards are available to their cricketers at all games. An approved Essex-branded helmet would have been available for Cook to use in this week�s match, in which he made 105 and 35 not out.

Cook wears a Gray-Nicolls helmet and the manufacturer said it had offered helmets that meet the new standards to all cricketers that it sponsors. The company said most of them had accepted the helmets with the new design, but a handful had not.

An Essex spokesman said they did not wish to comment, referring the matter to the ECB on the basis that Cook is a centrally contracted England player.

A spokesman for the ECB: �All the first-class counties have been given detailed guidance and advice on the new helmet regulations ahead of the new season.

�These regulations were drawn up after extensive consultation with the PCA and all the England players were given a further reminder of the importance of this issue earlier this week.�

bk · « **Reply #28 on:** April 15, 2016, 06:59:55 AM »

Cook defies England over banned helmet http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/sport/cook-defies-england-over-banned-helmet-6p6vfjcqp

'Cook wears a Gray-Nicolls helmet and the manufacturer said it had offered helmets that meet the new standards to all cricketers that it sponsors. The company said most of them had accepted the helmets with the new design, but a handful had not.'

liscon12 · « **Reply #29 on:** April 15, 2016, 07:27:43 AM »

Cook does what he wants
Cook does what he waaaaaaaaaants
He's England's Test Captain
Cook does what he wants

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