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Re: ECB confirms mandatory lid use.
« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2016, 07:47:12 AM »

reading this thread just smacks of the ECB not being in touch with players, unworkable rules that just un necessary

There's a new standard for helmets and safety....FINE.... phase out the old style helmets so manufaturers evolve and change their design

trying to stop players wearing a certain type of helmet smacks of some sort of authoritarian muscle flexing

why can't they work with the players on this? all they have to do is phase out the old design, ever pro in England knows there is a risk playing cricket, a risk in any sport, and they accept that.

Helmets becoming safer is a good thing, by why not work with them.

new rules and regulations only work if the players buy into it
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Re: ECB confirms mandatory lid use.
« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2016, 08:03:24 AM »

Mitigation of risk.

By ensuring players are wearing the latest models they are safeguarding themselves against any repercussions should the worst happen.
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Re: ECB confirms mandatory lid use.
« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2016, 08:37:03 AM »

I knew this would happen as I said in the other thread

There is no way they will enforce this with the big names

Can you really see the mighty castrated ECB telling Mr.Dhoni that he has to wear his helmet against spin or be asked to leave the field

I can see a few pros saying "I will wear my old helmet" after this as they cannot discipline anyone as they will be sued for victimisation
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Re: ECB confirms mandatory lid use.
« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2016, 08:37:10 AM »

reading this thread just smacks of the ECB not being in touch with players, unworkable rules that just un necessary


Unworkable? How is it unworkable? They get their kit for free. Don't buy the lucky helmet thing, he's worn different GN lids before, newer ones to the one he had the other day. Wouldn't surprise me if he had that lif because he didn't have any other with him at the time

http://s.ndtvimg.com/images/content/2014/jun/806/alastair-cook-england-sri-lanka.jpg
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Re: ECB confirms mandatory lid use.
« Reply #34 on: April 15, 2016, 08:41:29 AM »

I think it's a shame for kids who people may be trying to convince to switch to current helmets that the England Test Captain is not following suit, not the best role model.
But at the end of the day he is a professional sportsman and if he thinks his performance will be affected I can understand it.
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Re: ECB confirms mandatory lid use.
« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2016, 08:48:11 AM »

Let's be honest, it'll cease to be an issue in the not too distant future when players who prefer them run out of old helmets to wear - the amount of batting a pro does they've got to get disgustingly smelly pretty quickly! The rule is clearly aimed at reducing liability for the ECB/counties rather than forcing players to wear new lids, as Tom said.

Cook 100% wears that lid because he doesn't like the new GN version, which he tried early last year and didn't score any runs in!
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Re: ECB confirms mandatory lid use.
« Reply #36 on: April 15, 2016, 09:06:18 AM »

Let's be honest, it'll cease to be an issue in the not too distant future when players who prefer them run out of old helmets to wear - the amount of batting a pro does they've got to get disgustingly smelly pretty quickly! The rule is clearly aimed at reducing liability for the ECB/counties rather than forcing players to wear new lids, as Tom said.

Cook 100% wears that lid because he doesn't like the new GN version, which he tried early last year and didn't score any runs in!

that's exactly right... Cook is happy with that lid and wants that particular one, you've seen the pictures posted here of his bat being refurbed at GN-he likes that bat and wants to use it. They are cricketers just like us and their kit to them is the same as it is too us...

Cast the mind back to Jack Russell, allegedly his old hat, gloves and general kit stunk so much he changed 10 feet from anyone else.
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Re: ECB confirms mandatory lid use.
« Reply #37 on: April 15, 2016, 09:48:49 AM »

It doesn't bode well for the ECB that 'their man' is flat out sticking two fingers up at them and it also doesn't bode well if he is not made to change (given how the regs are written).  If the club and umpires are that worried about standing up to him, where does that leave the balance of power and respect.

Youngsters looking up at a role model may question why they cannot have the same helmet as Cook.

It strikes me as kind of arrogant that Cook is not supporting the push for safer kit and the directives his employers are pushing to make it safer for everyone.
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Re: ECB confirms mandatory lid use.
« Reply #38 on: April 15, 2016, 10:21:49 AM »

It doesn't bode well for the ECB that 'their man' is flat out sticking two fingers up at them and it also doesn't bode well if he is not made to change (given how the regs are written).  If the club and umpires are that worried about standing up to him, where does that leave the balance of power and respect.

Youngsters looking up at a role model may question why they cannot have the same helmet as Cook.

It strikes me as kind of arrogant that Cook is not supporting the push for safer kit and the directives his employers are pushing to make it safer for everyone.

Maybe he doesn't agree with the price hiking !
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Re: ECB confirms mandatory lid use.
« Reply #39 on: April 15, 2016, 10:37:57 AM »

maybe helmet manufacturers dont agree with having to foot the bill for redesign, tooling, manufacturing increases and testing costs!
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Re: ECB confirms mandatory lid use.
« Reply #40 on: April 15, 2016, 01:01:08 PM »

How about the first time an England batsman is facing 2 spinners in the heat and takes his lid off ( as some did in UAE)... 12th man runs on and says sorry Alastair I know you're England captain but the ECB have just phoned pop your lid back on there's a good lad

Also it's only a matter of time that this filters down the ECB want it to but resisted for now

Almost Nostradamus....Almost
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Re: ECB confirms mandatory lid use.
« Reply #41 on: April 15, 2016, 01:15:11 PM »

I think the ECB is smarter than we think... they know that enforcing this rule is not going to be possible (at least at the pro level), but the fact that wearing the safest helmet is now in the rulebook means that nobody can sue them if/when something does go wrong (assuming the injured party wasn't wearing the correct lid). they can say "look, you broke the rule, you can't sue". sounds like their legal team saw a wave of lawsuits coming, and this just preempts it. they aren't going to be d***s about forcing it at the highest level I don't think.

very much like the seatbelt rule - not always enforced.
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Re: ECB confirms mandatory lid use.
« Reply #42 on: April 15, 2016, 01:27:58 PM »

I think the ECB is smarter than we think... they know that enforcing this rule is not going to be possible (at least at the pro level), but the fact that wearing the safest helmet is now in the rulebook means that nobody can sue them if/when something does go wrong (assuming the injured party wasn't wearing the correct lid). they can say "look, you broke the rule, you can't sue". sounds like their legal team saw a wave of lawsuits coming, and this just preempts it. they aren't going to be d***s about forcing it at the highest level I don't think.

very much like the seatbelt rule - not always enforced.


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Re: ECB confirms mandatory lid use.
« Reply #43 on: April 15, 2016, 01:34:47 PM »

Alastair Cook spoken to by ECB after defying new regulations and wearing old-style helmet: skysports.tv/vvTIiL
Taken from sky sports news twitter
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Re: ECB confirms mandatory lid use.
« Reply #44 on: April 15, 2016, 01:58:34 PM »

Alastair Cook spoken to by ECB after defying new regulations and wearing old-style helmet: skysports.tv/vvTIiL
Taken from sky sports news twitter

eyes on this one then going forward, he could lead England out in the field......face up first ball when batting and could be asked to leave the field!!

he could even lead the team out in his old helmet just to make a point  :) :)

I do wear a lid myself the vast majority of the time batting having been hit a couple of times, the level of the grille has always been important for me. Cook has his fairly wide(low), new regs I believe narrow this gap and you cannot adjust at the side.

I adjust mine the widest I can without being silly, so a ball could still get thru...but the wider setting helps me sight the ball.

I can't be the only one here understanding why Cook wants this particular lid.

or have I mis-interpreted this?
 :) :)
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