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[jamielsn15]

For every player that prefers their old lids there are many more who don't care. Root, Sanga, have changed regularly and they seem to do ok. Its in Cook's head, nothing more.

The ECB are following CA's lead. Simply, they want to minimise the risk if serious injury or death. Not eliminate, but minimise risk. I personally have absolutely no issue with that.

[Vic Nicholas]

Much respect to Cook for sticking it to the arrogant ECCB.

The new fixed grills are an abomination.  Cook knows it.

This impasse is what happens when you allow some academics from Loughborough who don't play the game dictating it's future direction.

The players know best.

[Johnny]

When Cook went through his last barren patch (and he's one of those feast or famine players who seems to have had a few) I'm pretty sure he was wearing a newer version of the gray nics helmet. His return to form coincided with a return to an older model. Whether the old helmet is now a superstition thing, or the narrower gap actually affected his performance would be an interesting conversation to have with him

[mdg20]

Craig Keiswetter didn't know best and it cost him his career and almost his sight.
This is the ECB doing its best to prevent serious injury and death. How you can call the ECB arrogant for this I don't know.

[jamielsn15]

^ but remember, it's not paranoia if they're really after you... 😉

Gray nics will make cook a helmet that looks like the new one, but is really the old one.

[skip1973]

They can't, if he was to get hurt GN would go a row.

[roco]

^ but remember, it's not paranoia if they're really after you... 😉

Gray nics will make cook a helmet that looks like the new one, but is really the old one.

I had a thought about this other day

The newer helmets have a full cover over the mounts

What is to stop gn or whoever making that cover plate bigger to hide the adjustable grille to keep everyone happy?

[jamielsn15]

People do get that careers are being ended by blows to the face, right? That means that the ecb, pca are paying up insurance policies, etc. It's also the kind of stuff that puts parents off letting their kids play the game, so the governing body, the custodians of the game in this country have to be seen to do something, to be proactive.

It's not a conspiracy and in my opinion Cook has to consider his wider responsibilities as England captain and as a role model.

[Ayrtek Cricket]

I had a thought about this other day

The newer helmets have a full cover over the mounts

What is to stop gn or whoever making that cover plate bigger to hide the adjustable grille to keep everyone happy?

As they'd still need to submit the model to testing and pass the drop/penetration test in order to get a cert of compliance to accompany it, the helmet would also need to carry labelling stating its meets the 2013 standard etc which is prob something umpires will look for when checking. The helmet brand name and model once compliant would be added to the ECB/PCA list too.

Our carbon fibre helmet with air liner will more than likely walk though testing given that our entry level one has passed but we still have to submit 30 of them for testing and go through the cost/time process for each model we want to sell. Its not something you can fast track in a week as the helmets need conditioning and have to undergo tests + paperwork in the form of a technical file for each model.

[roco]

I wasn't sure umps would check in that detail

I just can't see how they can enforce it without icc approval

No point really forcing England cricketers to follow suit then visiting teams can wear what they like

[edge]

@Ayrtek why are you posting on here now, should be busy getting on the blower to Cook! Get one of yours on his head in tests and you'll be a millionaire by the end of the season

[ProCricketer1982]

As they'd still need to submit the model to testing and pass the drop/penetration test in order to get a cert of compliance to accompany it, the helmet would also need to carry labelling stating its meets the 2013 standard etc which is prob something umpires will look for when checking. The helmet brand name and model once compliant would be added to the ECB/PCA list too.

Our carbon fibre helmet with air liner will more than likely walk though testing given that our entry level one has passed but we still have to submit 30 of them for testing and go through the cost/time process for each model we want to sell. Its not something you can fast track in a week as the helmets need conditioning and have to undergo tests + paperwork in the form of a technical file for each model.

30 of each model? Ouch.

[Ayrtek Cricket]

Yes there are 30 impacts per model for each test, times that by a junior, youth, S-L, L-XL model and it soon starts stacking up in terms of whats submitted.

[roco]

Looks like KP and FAF using compliant helmets

[ppccopener]

A.Cook

ct someone bowled someone else for 1

wearing the new style ECB approved lid......