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[GoodLeave]

What safer? A professional facing a cricket ball at 90mph and loosing sight of the ball because he doesn't like the new helmet or wearing a helmet he has grew up wearing and learning to play the game and watching the ball the whole time? Its simple, it should be the batsman's choice what they wear, I mean they should be able to walk out and wear no helmet if they made the choice themselves.

Completely agree. Unfortunately, this reminds me of the stories I heard while working for the NHS of people sueing surgeons because in the act of saving thier lives, they made an incision that was an inch longer than it should have been and is now "unsightly"... You're welcome. (Completely different to medical malpractice I hasten to add)

Right minded people would accept this was thier choice. However the chance of some compo makes people think differently. "You should have stopped me" they will cry.

My own opinion? If you can make it safer, I'll wear it.

[TGB1997]

Completely agree. Unfortunately, this reminds me of the stories I heard while working for the NHS of people sueing surgeons because in the act of saving thier lives, they made an incision that was an inch longer than it should have been and is now "unsightly"... You're welcome. (Completely different to medical malpractice I hasten to add)

Right minded people would accept this was thier choice. However the chance of some compo makes people think differently. "You should have stopped me" they will cry.

My own opinion? If you can make it safer, I'll wear it.

I'm very much in the opinion that if it's going to improve the safety of the game then I'm all for it, that's why I bought the Masuri Vision Series Elite Titanium and also added the StemGuard as well

[Buzz]

Ask yourself the question, would you rather have a safe lid or a broken nose/ smashed eye socket?

I have always considered myself to be an ok (not great, but decent) player of a short ball, yet still managed to top edge a quick ball through my peak and grille. I was lucky as the ball only just grazed my eyebrow.

I have played with no lid learned to play with a lid and am learning to play with a compliant lid. Anyone can do it.

[rickjames]

lol

[WalkingWicket37]

Cricket is such a mental game at times. Some players think the new fixed grille impedes vision, so they can't bat as well wearing one. I think it goes the other way personally, if the fixed grille is safer it allows batsman to do their job with less worry/fear of a head injury.

I'll be the first to admit I'm not the best batsman in the world, so any gear that makes the game safer can only be a good thing to my mind.
Do I "need" a double bar titanium grilled Masuri with a stem guard? No.
Do I feel safer having them there "just in case"? You bet I do. If I feel safer I find I bat better (I went through a stage of not wearing a lid just after my 18th birthday and I felt exposed basically)

Ask yourself the question, would you rather have a safe lid or a broken nose/ smashed eye socket?

This is my new compliant Masuri next to last season's Albion, as I used it. I think that will answer your question.

[Bats_Galore]

I am sure that the England Captain as a professional player doesn't wish to be played off through significant injury. However I would suspect the bowling he is facing is different to most people on this forum, and as such if he feels that the new equipment impairs his peripheral sight enough (with the margins being significantly smaller) to effect his game, it is likely to provide its own dangers of injury. On balance given he is pretty much a model professional in all other areas, I would suspect it must be a pretty significant issue for him to be at odds with his employers, ex colleagues in management etc. All in all I would believe he would have done his utmost to have tried to adapt to the new equipment, but feels it impairs his ability and safety sufficiently to be an issue.

[GoodLeave]

All in all I would believe he would have done his utmost to have tried to adapt to the new equipment, but feels it impairs his ability and safety sufficiently to be an issue.

That's a good point. I bet he's had hundreds of hours on the machine/against net bowlers in the compliant helmet. If you don't like it even after months and months of trying it, you're never going to like it.

It's not like he's worn it twice and isn't fussed.

[Ayrtek Cricket]

Trott has said the same it seems in a telegraph article, issue is Cook is the ECB poster boy and skipper so sets an example so isn't going to fly under the radar like other county pros.

He will also be facing the 90mph + bowlers with a new cherry at test level so they will want to ensure he's protected to optimal level in the event the worst happens.

[Buzz]

That's a good point. I bet he's had hundreds of hours on the machine/against net bowlers in the compliant helmet. If you don't like it even after months and months of trying it, you're never going to like it.

It's not like he's worn it twice and isn't fussed.

So find one that he is happy with.
The GM one feels to me almost the same as my old style Masuri, with virtually no difference in vision. But he isn't going to wear that is he...

[GoodLeave]

So find one that he is happy with.
The GM one feels to me almost the same as my old style Masuri, with virtually no difference in vision. But he isn't going to wear that is he...

I presume GN sponsor him to use all thier kit, inc helmet. Maybe it's time to take a pay cut, and wear a Masuri...

[ppccopener]

Which of the makes that are compliant have an adjustable grill?

None is that correct?

[WalkingWicket37]

Which of the makes that are compliant have an adjustable grill?

None is that correct?

I don't think that new helmets can be adjustable (or if they are all settings, including the widest one, have to meet the standards), GM and Ayrtek do a lid with a detachable grille but I think they can only be attached in one position in order to meet the new standards.

[ppccopener]

I'm not 100 per cent sure but I'm pretty sure none are adjustable and that's what's causing the issue. cook ,Compton ,trott don't like them because they cannot sight the ball property-just about the most important part of batting.

I've said before I think this whole thing is just wrong, Cook is the best person to decide what lid he wears.there is a risk in any sport....there's less risk of getting a ball thru the gap with the new ones, more risk of getting hit if you cannot sight the ball properly. Both have risk.....

Cook can't win sometimes, especially on this forum, he wears this lid because the Ecb say so against his better judgement or he wears the lid he thinks is best,for whatever reason, and gets stick for not setting an example and toeing the party line.

It's common knowledge he is a stubborn so and so. If you are going to get stick you might as well do it your way...
 

[ProCricketer1982]

Fair one chef, stand up for whats right fella. I've tried the new masuri and didn't like it so will continue to use shrey (2015 one). Am I facing 90+ nah, but I don't like the reduced visibility.. I'm crap enough as it is without losing track of the ball

[Batbuddy99]

I presume GN sponsor him to use all thier kit, inc helmet. Maybe it's time to take a pay cut, and wear a Masuri...

Or an ayrtek!