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nickpain77

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Re: Softs manufactuer comparison
« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2015, 04:07:22 PM »

Same old streets in India Pakistan . ....you tell them your budget and they will get you the goods. Sell them under whatever logo you want to. Few guys  in my home town were doing it on a local much smaller scale and the goods were on par with  the usual club level stuff you get here. Why is it you want to know anyway

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« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2015, 04:24:36 PM »

I'll suggest just visit these company websites like BAS, RS, RNS, BDM , KG, PR , SF etc and send then your requirement using their contact us info.
You should be able to get some pricing and model pics.
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« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2015, 06:47:54 PM »

Don't bother trying to find out which brands use which suppliers! I would suggest that you find the supplier that you are happiest with and that you can work well with?
 
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« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2015, 07:02:54 PM »

Surely if you know an Indian brand manufacture their own softs you could have a look at their most recent softs and compare them to the brands to see what looks similar? For example, affinity and H4L must get their softs from the same place as the Affinity gloves I've got are very similar to the H4L pro gloves except for colours. If you found for example champ blank gloves were the same you'd get a good idea. It'll just take some detective work!!
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« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2015, 07:42:58 PM »

Surely if you know an Indian brand manufacture their own softs you could have a look at their most recent softs and compare them to the brands to see what looks similar? For example, affinity and H4L must get their softs from the same place as the Affinity gloves I've got are very similar to the H4L pro gloves except for colours. If you found for example champ blank gloves were the same you'd get a good idea. It'll just take some detective work!!

Yes.  From my experience the Champ gloves are very good and there was no big secret that they do/did the Hammer, Mars and Legget & Coe softs amongst others.
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« Reply #20 on: December 26, 2015, 11:30:04 AM »

How about alibaba is that a good site to use
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« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2015, 12:31:22 AM »

How about alibaba is that a good site to use

A friend of mine tried to source duck feather shuttles for badminton. Sellers from China & India offered a competitive price. He ordered 100 boxes (12 birdies per box) and found that none of them are of good quality. Complete rip off and loss of value. Alibaba is more open version of eBay with zero to little purchase protection. You are better off contact manufacturers via email or contact us option listed on their website. In my opinion alibaba is not a good source.
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« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2015, 12:33:48 AM »

Yes.  From my experience the Champ gloves are very good and there was no big secret that they do/did the Hammer, Mars and Legget & Coe softs amongst others.

Champ makes Hammer stuff ? Hmm this is news to me. Hammer LE gloves are very good, quite heavy but very good level of protection.
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« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2015, 05:51:06 AM »

Just to clarify;

I'm not looking to produce or sell my own stuff..I just want to buy a pair of gloves and want to make an informed decision as there are so many softs on the market.
In many cases-multiple gloves that are very similar (if not the same) branded and priced differently makes it confusing..

Why are the brands so secretive about where there equipment is produced? Is it because  they are trying to hide something? Surely if a brand believes 100% in the quality of their goods, they would have no trouble disclosing where they were made(?)
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Re: Softs manufactuer comparison
« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2015, 08:08:05 AM »

Just to clarify;

I'm not looking to produce or sell my own stuff..I just want to buy a pair of gloves and want to make an informed decision as there are so many softs on the market.
In many cases-multiple gloves that are very similar (if not the same) branded and priced differently makes it confusing..

Why are the brands so secretive about where there equipment is produced? Is it because  they are trying to hide something? Surely if a brand believes 100% in the quality of their goods, they would have no trouble disclosing where they were made(?)

If you just wanted to buy a good quality pair of gloves why would you want to know who manufactures them ? Any brand - H4L, Salix, B3, GN, GM, Kook, SS etc - pick their top of the line product offering and buy that gloves. I am sure they would last a while and would perform well.

Brands are secretive about who makes them because they have to be competitive in this market. From my observation each brand has certain design requirements for softs and design/manufacturing firms in India & Pakistan are offering services to design as per their requirement. I don't think any brand is hiding anything intentionally. If the information about who makes gloves is revealed two things can happen -

1. The customer has no need to buy the gloves from the brands they can rather buy from the manufacturer.
2. Any competitor who is trying to beat the brand can call up the manufacturer and ask them to provide the same design. Either way the brand stands to lose any competitive advantage.

Brand like Gray Nics who make and sell huge volume of cricket products have setup factories in India and UK. They are probably making their its own softs and they can label the product as made in xyz. From what i know you don't make much profit from sale of soft goods. Decent profit is made only from the bats. Considering the cost of manufacturing smaller brands would outsource manufacturing to custom design firms in India or Pakistan.

If you have specific model of gloves in mind, please list them here. Someone in this forum is likely to have used it and they can provide necessary comments.
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Re: Softs manufactuer comparison
« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2015, 08:08:23 AM »

Champ makes Hammer stuff ? Hmm this is news to me. Hammer LE gloves are very good, quite heavy but very good level of protection.

Every day is a school day mate!  I can assure you that they do (or at least they did in the summer).
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« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2015, 08:17:48 AM »

Every day is a school day mate!  I can assure you that they do (or at least they did in the summer).

Very true ... Every day is a school day. I just recently heard from a few friends the Hammer Vapen which was previous made by Laver is now being made in UK. I guess this information keeps changing every year ....
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« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2015, 08:27:38 AM »

Very true ... Every day is a school day. I just recently heard from a few friends the Hammer Vapen which was previous made by Laver is now being made in UK. I guess this information keeps changing every year ....
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You're right @sanredrose    Things are constantly changing.  They may have even changed there softs producer and my info could be outdated?!
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Re: Softs manufactuer comparison
« Reply #28 on: December 29, 2015, 10:25:26 AM »

If you just wanted to buy a good quality pair of gloves why would you want to know who manufactures them ? Any brand - H4L, Salix, B3, GN, GM, Kook, SS etc - pick their top of the line product offering and buy that gloves. I am sure they would last a while and would perform well.

Good question-Here is why:
As an example, I am currently using Bradbury ARX gloves. They are great on protection, feel and looks but started to fray and have issues with the stitching after only a few uses.
Looking through a catalogue recently I noticed Gray Nicholls and another brand Helix have gloves that look VERY similar to the Bradburys. Ie; I assume are made in the same factory.
I could just change brands and go and spend $100+ on a pair of GN gloves (for example) but if they are made in the same factory, out of the same materials than I could just have the same problem again.

FYI, I contacted Bradbury to give them that feedback and they informed me that they have changed their supplier.
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Re: Softs manufactuer comparison
« Reply #29 on: December 31, 2015, 11:19:11 AM »

Has anyone got another way of contacting Robinson's except from the email on there very dated websit because they're not replying to my emails
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