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[WalkingWicket37]

He doesn't really "make" them (someone else glues in the handle, and presses the willow)...he just shapes what is given to him.

So he turns a handled pressed cleft into a usable bat (which is what I believe Julian Millichamp used to do), sounds like bat making to me...

[langer17]

He doesn't really "make" them (someone else glues in the handle, and presses the willow)...he just shapes what is given to him.

I wouldn't call a cleft with a handle in it a bat, so it is made into one, hence batmaker. Just wondering this, wouldn't no one technically be bat maker as willow is a natural product so the bats are made by the earth. Everyone who 'makes' bats could be viewed as willow shaper's or pod shavers if they do it in the traditional way. Probably a silly point, but my brain is pondering this atm and I can't seem to articulate it very well at the moment.

[Nmcgee]

Either way, he's producing some good quality bats for quite a few locals and some of the bigger names in world cricket. Good on him.

[Vitas Cricket]

He was making bats for the Sri Lankan team during the world cup, making bats for a lot of the West Indies team too. His bats must go alright.

Making a bat for someone and getting a photo with them is very different to the player actually using it, or indeed that particular manufacturer being the players chosen batmaker.

Not intended as a negative towards jp gavan here as I don't really know anything about him, this applies more to batmakers/brands in general.

If I was an international cricketer constantly touring the world, you can bet i would visit as many places as possible to try a bat, whether picking up pre mades, having bats made from scratch or from part mades, I'd want to try as many as possible. So because a certain batmaker/brand made a bat for someone, doesn't automatically make it good, and doesn't automatically mean that player will even use it. Think of how many bats have been thrust into sachins hands over the years for a photo opportunity. They've all made a bat for Sachin yes, but that in itself doesn't really mean too much.

[Jacky]

He does most repairs for the state / international teams when in Sydney, so I'd say he is fairly skilled

Worth a look here http://www.jpgavan.com/bat-repairs

[brokenbat]

I wouldn't call a cleft with a handle in it a bat, so it is made into one, hence batmaker. Just wondering this, wouldn't no one technically be bat maker as willow is a natural product so the bats are made by the earth. Everyone who 'makes' bats could be viewed as willow shaper's or pod shavers if they do it in the traditional way. Probably a silly point, but my brain is pondering this atm and I can't seem to articulate it very well at the moment.

my understanding of the bat making process is that the most important phases are the pressing and gluing of the handle. as that is what determines performance, ping, longevity (everything we care about).

everything else, a carpenter can do.

[Nmcgee]

But that's exactly what a pod shaver is; a skilled carpenter.

[langer17]

my understanding of the bat making process is that the most important phases are the pressing and gluing of the handle. as that is what determines performance, ping, longevity (everything we care about).

everything else, a carpenter can do.

To be a carpenter you still require years of training

[brokenbat]

To be a carpenter you still require years of training

Correct. Not sure what your point is.

Someone here said that JP Gavin makes "planks"...which is why I said what I said. As in, JP Gavin would have no control on whether his bats are planks or not (since it's the pressing , handling etc that would determine that).

[Nmcgee]

Thus he no doubt carefully chose his supplier. That would be part of his quality control, I'm guessing.

[sanredrose]

For a guy who started making bats in 2012 .. I would say he has grown a lot ..


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[Jacky]

I've seen a few floating around our competition and by all means they look to play well, stickers are also quite nice.

[edge]

To be a carpenter you still require years of training

You wouldn't go and see your local carpenter if you needed a new bat though would you ha. I agree tbh, there's a reason why when manufacturers sell pressed and handled clefts they're called 'pre-mades'.

[tushar sehgal]

Sometimes it feels like no matter what anyone is trying to do there is someone on here trying to knock them down. I have never had a JP Gavan bat, atleast he is trying to shape them and not just sticker them up...

I am sure @Red Ink Cricket & @Beachcricket wouldn't mind me saying this but they are up there with the rest of them and they also started with pressed/glued clefts. You can't learn everything in one day, Julian was a mighty fine carpenter by that standard too then...

Good bats is pressing and shaping, if you overlook the willow itself, you mess one up and its not a good bat anymore.

[Batbuddy99]

You wouldn't go and see your local carpenter if you needed a new bat though would you ha. I agree tbh, there's a reason why when manufacturers sell pressed and handled clefts they're called 'pre-mades'.

*part-mades
He still has to do the rest of it!


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