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Re: Me netting - any advice
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2016, 01:33:30 PM »

Nick - I have sent you a PM

For others watching this video - when you watch someone bat - the things I always suggest people look at is grip, stance and head position through a shot.

When I look at Nick batting I seem to see different things to what people have posted so far...!

p.s. I really don't think that the bat coming down straight is your issue, it is a symptom of something else :D
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Re: Me netting - any advice
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2016, 02:29:23 PM »

Well done for posting. Batting = start with the head. Bowling = start with the feet.


Your head moves nicely towards the ball on the off side but you over balance slightly on the leg side and the head sometimes goes too far. This is mainly due to your hands being too far from your body and not starting under your eye line. Pull your hands in closer to your body so that they're under your eyes and try to play middle stump balls straighter down the ground. This should stop you chasing wide deliveries and also playing across your front pad (which is why you'll be getting bowled). It's a good bat swing. It just needs lining up a touch straighter. A good practise drill is to get someone to use a bowling machine and target your off stump. Try and leave every ball that isn't hitting the stumps. Also try to hit in front of mid wicket. This will straighten the bat swing and help bring the hands in closer. Good luck.
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Re: Me netting - any advice
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2016, 08:03:49 PM »

Watched the first 2mins. It looks to me that you move and play the ball quite early. I would try and play a little later, that would also help to keep the leg side glances down.
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Re: Me netting - any advice
« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2016, 08:28:45 PM »

Ah @uknsaunders I can see what I missed on Saturday, thanks for the invite again. Let me know if/when your going again and I'll bring my GoPro and get two angles.
Looks like you've got plenty of advice already to help you. Lord only knows what comments my 'technique' would get!
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Re: Me netting - any advice
« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2016, 09:44:35 AM »

Some more net videos and I was lucky enough to have a coach present to work on the batting (as you will hear):-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AcrPK1Rjzg&feature=youtu.be

https://youtu.be/7S9Dv0Hiwtg
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Re: Me netting - any advice
« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2016, 10:05:11 AM »

Just watched the first video:

It's horrible when you're out of nick as you think ot could be one thing, which it actually isn't, then you change that and things get worse and by the end you tear yourself down!

Quick thought:

1. Face seems very closed on some shots on back lift, and this coincides with bringing the best across the ball. Maybe try just opening the face a touch more. I know o hold my face more angled than yourself, but different things work for different people.

2. Playing the ball too early can cause this as well - you get there then have to wait and ot messes the swing up entirely. That's just a side note. Not something you necessarily do.

I don't think there's too much wrong. The majority of the time you get into position well. A bola can lead to issues - it totally upsets my rhythm having ball after ball so quick.

Stick with it!
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Re: Me netting - any advice
« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2016, 11:48:07 AM »

Hi Nick,
Short answer: move your front foot to the balls that and more outside off

Long answer:
Only watch the first few minutes and wasnt listening to the coach but my initialy thoughts are;

The shots you outside edge your front foot doesnt come across enough to reach them, causing you to reach for it and disturb your swing and your bottom hand reacts and cause the bat to start going towards mid on hence outside edging.

Your best shots were at 1:30 and 2:00 (first video) - your front foot it towards the pitch of the ball and every thing follows it.

As ollie said i dont think there's alot to change it all looks very sound with the odd exception of the lazy front foot which every player is a culprit of. And agreed the bola machine can cause more problems sometimes and your train your muscles to come forward and across to those outside off, but doesnt teach you about the one just back of a length so you misjudge it, mistime it and get out. This is neither here or there though.

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Re: Me netting - any advice
« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2016, 11:52:06 AM »

Hi Nick,

One thing I learned over winter was the way your front foot points also plays a major part in when playing the shot correctly.

Your front foot points toward cover for every ball which also means your head falls and you were flicking some on the leg from outside off.

The way to overcome that, you could possibly open up the front foot slightly

Hope it helps


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Re: Me netting - any advice
« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2016, 11:59:22 AM »

Hi Nick,

One thing I learned over winter was the way your front foot points also plays a major part in when playing the shot correctly.

Your front foot points toward cover for every ball which also means your head falls and you were flicking some on the leg from outside off.

The way to overcome that, you could possibly open up the front foot slightly

Hope it helps


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Oh yeah forget to mention him falling over, best way you can tell this is when your back foot moves to adjust yourself.
Foot - elbow - head all in one direction.

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Re: Me netting - any advice
« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2016, 12:09:53 PM »

Hi Nick, looks pretty good to me tbh, I have a couple of minor suggestions that may have been touch on previously.
These are only small tweaks because you look pretty close to prefect imo.
1, grip on right hand looks a tad weak, not in grip pressure weak but more in golfing grip weak/strong if that makes sense, maybe try moving you're hand around a touch so the v is pointing more down the spine or even midway between the spine and the rh edge of the bat.
2, right forearm when in the pick up could maybe tucked in a bit tight to the hip, try to keep both forearms pointing parallel towards the bowler.
3, I prefer the bat to be be slightly more open when in the pick up, toe pointing to 1st slip, bat face around 45 degrees to the ground if that makes sense, hard to explain in text.
All three suggestion should lead to the bat coming down more vertically to the ground.
Like I said earlier these are all very minor adjustments, and you look very close to perfect, it's surprising how small adjustments can make a difference technically and there could be some psychological advantages in making changes also, the brain is a fickle organ and can be tricked from time to time.
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Re: Me netting - any advice
« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2016, 12:26:45 PM »

I have some thoughts on pitched balls on leg stump, not sure what others think about this?.
I prefer to get my front forward half a stride along side the line of the ball(as opposed to a full stride when driving through the off side) and try to drive the ball in the v between mid-on and mid-wicket rather than flicking the ball off the pads square of the wicket, tuff shot to play, but there's less variance and it sure looks good when accomplished.
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Re: Me netting - any advice
« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2016, 12:31:05 PM »

Is there a thread where we can put our videos of us playing?
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Re: Me netting - any advice
« Reply #27 on: January 24, 2016, 12:35:56 PM »

In my excitement to get my thoughts into text I've made the schoolboy error of not watching both videos so some of my points may be moot, I do apologise.
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Re: Me netting - any advice
« Reply #28 on: January 24, 2016, 01:33:50 PM »

Thanks for all the input. The guy coaching is a level 4 ECB coach and was given me some decent advice free of charge :-)

Technically it's about refining my technique. It's worked ok for a number of years but you can always improve. If you play club cricket 80% of dismissals are self inflicted, either because we make an error of judgement or commit suicide pushing on the scoring rate ie. Get out slogging. Another 10% are good balls and the remaining 10% are things you could of done better. I'm working on that 10%, staying still, not falling over and bringing the bat down straight are always good things to work on.


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Re: Me netting - any advice
« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2016, 08:41:31 PM »

Thanks for all the input. The guy coaching is a level 4 ECB coach and was given me some decent advice free of charge :-)

Technically it's about refining my technique. It's worked ok for a number of years but you can always improve. If you play club cricket 80% of dismissals are self inflicted, either because we make an error of judgement or commit suicide pushing on the scoring rate ie. Get out slogging. Another 10% are good balls and the remaining 10% are things you could of done better. I'm working on that 10%, staying still, not falling over and bringing the bat down straight are always good things to work on.


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