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[WalkingWicket37]

Evening all

It's Saturday night, so while most people are on the booze and getting ready for a night out I'm playing with my bats!

As most of the regulars on here will have seen, I had B3 map SimonMay5's Screaming cat that I fell in love with. I also bought a Chase off eBay for a very good price considering it was barely used. I couldn't help but notice the similarities between the two while they were side my side. 

Other than the obvious concaving (none vs. Minimal) the shapes are almost identical. The B3s swell extends slightly further down the blade than the Chase, while the Chase has a very subtle bow compared to the dead straight B3 which has an angled handle to create the same effect.

I'm not sure when Simon's Scat would have been made, but the Chase is around 10 years old and I'm guessing if would have been a similar time. This was obviously before the big edge craze took over, but it goes to show that this shape works well. Both bats have good coverage with wood in the right places. This results in a nice long hitting area and both bats tap up just as well as any big edged bat I have recently owned.

What was the point of all this waffle? I feel these bats unscientifically prove that big edges may look nice, but what really makes a bat perform well is coverage. You try to hit the ball out the middle of the bat, both these bats have a lot of wood there giving an extended sweet spot. Because of the full shapes and having wood in the right places you get value for your shots that may not be so present on a heavily concaved bat.

[SteffanLangholz]

Looks very similar. B3 is a bit bigger - more exaggerated in measurements, but shape looks good. (btw, great buy on the chase!)

[Ayrtek Cricket]

Couldn't agree more, I've had numerous bats over he last 6 years but I for one am glad the big edge phase is over, the obsession with how big a bats edges were confused me. (Even as someone selling bats at the time 2/3 years ago).

As commented in n other threads surely having more wood behind the desired hitting area has to achieve better results than having big edges on an area you try not to hit.

I've had my Scat copied twice now over the years in an attempt to find something as good bit like a nymphomanic ex Gf I fear nothing will ever match the mark it achieved 😳

[Sivlar13]

I'm glad I'm not the only one mucking around with bats on a Saturday night!! Seem to have one or two bats scattered in each room in case I want to do some shadow batting.

[StillNotOut]

Totally agree. None of my bats have huge edges yet most of my teammates dont bat an eyelid as they love the huge edged Asian bats. Do my bats play as well as theirs do? Most certainly


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[SteffanLangholz]

I have a couple of XxX GN aussie style bats from a sponsered WA player. Reckon its 2007-08 - pretty much this shape, brilliant pickup, stripped weight only 2.6!

[skip1973]

Couldn't agree more, I've had numerous bats over he last 6 years but I for one am glad the big edge phase is over, the obsession with how big a bats edges were confused me. (Even as someone selling bats at the time 2/3 years ago).

As commented in n other threads surely having more wood behind the desired hitting area has to achieve better results than having big edges on an area you try not to hit.

I've had my Scat copied twice now over the years in an attempt to find something as good bit like a nymphomanic ex Gf I fear nothing will ever match the mark it achieved 😳

Why did the GN scoop work so well?

[WalkingWicket37]

Why did the GN scoop work so well?

I think this was something to do with optimum wood volumes to create a sturdy structure that would stand up to hitting a ball while still removing the scoop. It works in a similar way to a cavity back golf club in theory

[skip1973]

I think this was something to do with optimum wood volumes to create a sturdy structure that would stand up to hitting a ball while still removing the scoop. It works in a similar way to a cavity back golf club in theory

Yeah but it still blows the wood behind the hitting area out of the water surely. I have seen magic bats with and without concaving, big and small edge, cheap and expensive, twin scoops etc. Years of playing cricket and selling cricket I am still search of that perfect bat.

[WalkingWicket37]

There are exceptions to every rule. 
Basic phisics dictate that, with all other things equal, more wood behind where you hit the ball will result in better performance than less wood. But as we all know not all other things are equal.

My basic theory stands up and has other players backings as well as scientific support. However there is no such thing as a perfect bat shape, otherwise there wouldn't be all these different profiles (and out beloved forum wouldn't exist!)

[brokenbat]

Don't think it's about volume of wood, as much as the overall weight (physics only tells us "F=mass x acceleration").

I was playing around with a friends flare (tiny edges) and it pinged like a beast....BUT anything off the edge would barely reach the 30 yard circle.

So...I think the only advantage  (but a significant one in a game situation) the bigger edges provide is that mishits can go slightly further....and I think it's because a tiny edge doesn't present enough surface area for the ball to respond from.

I also think once you start getting to 35 mm edges, it's enough to benefit from bigger mishits and that further increase in edge size leads to diminishing returns....that 35vmm number is just a rough guess

[gaurav23]

^Makes sense.


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[InternalTraining]

I like big bats with big edges and big spine - best of both worlds.

[Number4]

I like big bats and I can not lie
You other brothers can't deny

[trypewriter]

Couldn't agree more, I've had numerous bats over he last 6 years but I for one am glad the big edge phase is over, the obsession with how big a bats edges were confused me. (Even as someone selling bats at the time 2/3 years ago).

As commented in n other threads surely having more wood behind the desired hitting area has to achieve better results than having big edges on an area you try not to hit.

I've had my Scat copied twice now over the years in an attempt to find something as good bit like a nymphomanic ex Gf I fear nothing will ever match the mark it achieved 😳

well said Tom.