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Increasing bat speed - BMac speed!
« on: February 26, 2016, 09:13:03 PM »

Any advice from people on how to really increase your batspeed, which muscles to workout on. I am generally in very good shape being a personal trainer, and can hit the ball a fair mile (modest I know), but from what I gather when I record myself, is my bat speed just isn't fast enough. Forearm muscle training? Core training? Agility? I've been training for the good part of 4 years now, and made drastic improvement to all areas of my game except that one part!
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Re: Increasing bat speed - BMac speed!
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2016, 09:20:31 PM »

Jp gavin training bat and how it's suppose to help increase speed





Watch it to the end, there's a video of him netting.
Conventional bat
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he does seem to have quicker speed at the end.
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Re: Increasing bat speed - BMac speed!
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2016, 09:59:21 PM »

along those lines...just swinging around a heavier bat (even 2 oz heavier helps) will work. one other thing I do before a net / game is hold two bats together, swing around a few times, and then go in with my regular bat. you'd be shocked how much lighter it seems right after. these are all short term pre-game fixes... you'd obviously want to spend more time developing your core strength etc. apparently playing squash is supposed to help as well.
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Re: Increasing bat speed - BMac speed!
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2016, 10:08:11 PM »

Many recommend the heavy bat in the nets method to increase bat speed.
Also knew a pro footballer who trained in heavy boots claimed it helped him run faster on match day.
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Re: Increasing bat speed - BMac speed!
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2016, 12:31:29 AM »

Many recommend the heavy bat in the nets method to increase bat speed.
Also knew a pro footballer who trained in heavy boots claimed it helped him run faster on match day.

If ever you needed anything to prove the "footballers are thick" stereotype...
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Re: Increasing bat speed - BMac speed!
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2016, 12:37:42 AM »

Use you bottom half! Power comes from your base and watch some baseball hitting drills is also good for tips on hand speed.
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Re: Increasing bat speed - BMac speed!
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2016, 09:03:17 AM »

If you can hit the ball a long way then already then why do you need to improve bat speed?
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Re: Increasing bat speed - BMac speed!
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2016, 09:25:08 AM »

If ever you needed anything to prove the "footballers are thick" stereotype...

It's a sound theory, same as to improve speed and acceleration you do the rubber band training where a team mate pulls you back as you try to run.

Your body still try's to move at same pace but forces are stopping it. Which when forces are removed means your body sets off thinking there there and you add pace!

Watch any England/Yorkshire/ insert other international/county training camps and there all doing it.
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Re: Increasing bat speed - BMac speed!
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2016, 09:21:34 PM »

I wonder if the type of bat profile has anything to do with it. Would a bat with more wood in the middle be easier to swing than a big edged bat with the wood displaced across the bat. Probably not in mccullums case though!

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Re: Increasing bat speed - BMac speed!
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2016, 09:27:47 PM »

I wonder if the type of bat profile has anything to do with it. Would a bat with more wood in the middle be easier to swing than a big edged bat with the wood displaced across the bat. Probably not in mccullums case though!

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Id say a bat with weight mainly at the bottom should increase speed on the way down, as the pendulum effect of the weight on the end should help it swing and keep its momentum.

But like a no good mmi3


Pick up not be great, but if you bat like david Willey and start with it have gn as the bowlers running in. You've negated that part.
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Re: Increasing bat speed - BMac speed!
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2016, 01:00:36 PM »

I'm not sure I understand how heavy bats are going to work in the long run. It seems a bit like the heavy ball bowling theory that bowlers attempt. I thought the general results of that were that unless used only sparingly in off season training that the bowlers ended up losing accuracy as the timing went out the window.

I'd have thought that your timing of the ball would suffer with use of a heavy bat? Sure bat speed might increase but it might not be effective in terms of how far the ball goes.

The pitchvision guys talk about building wrist strength for more power with farmers carries and the like (http://www.pitchvision.com/get-a-grip-forearm-training-leads-to-more-runs#/). I guess their theory is that stronger wrists can give you better control WHEN you swing faster?
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« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2016, 03:41:44 PM »

Under weight/Over weight training will help here. Using a heavy bat alone in training will help with building strength but you need to practice swinging with a very light bat to train the muscles to "operate" faster. Studies have been done and, while not conclusive, shows there is an effect by training with under and over weight equipment in order to increase velocity.

The same method is used by some bowlers in order to generate arm speed.
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Re: Increasing bat speed - BMac speed!
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2016, 12:45:35 AM »

Look at baseball players warmup with 2-3 bats before they go on. I am not sure netting with one will help but 10-15 mins before you go out to bat if you picked up a heavier bat and swung it around it should help. Especially for ppl coming in late or with the intention of just hitting


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Re: Increasing bat speed - BMac speed!
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2016, 02:59:19 AM »

I'm not sure I understand how heavy bats are going to work in the long run. It seems a bit like the heavy ball bowling theory that bowlers attempt. I thought the general results of that were that unless used only sparingly in off season training that the bowlers ended up losing accuracy as the timing went out the window.

I'd have thought that your timing of the ball would suffer with use of a heavy bat? Sure bat speed might increase but it might not be effective in terms of how far the ball goes.

The pitchvision guys talk about building wrist strength for more power with farmers carries and the like (http://www.pitchvision.com/get-a-grip-forearm-training-leads-to-more-runs#/). I guess their theory is that stronger wrists can give you better control WHEN you swing faster?


Using heavy bat won't make anyone faster. Getting stronger will make your body and arms move faster. When using a heavy bat in a match situation, you have to use your core, legs, and arms to react with a heavy bat. Try using a heavy bat when facing a Bola at 80+ mph: fast hands alone won't do it.

Watch ABD in action. He gets in a strong position, in line with a ball very quickly before he even uses his hands. ABD also has HUGE arms.
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Re: Increasing bat speed - BMac speed!
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2016, 03:02:58 AM »

Look at baseball players warmup with 2-3 bats before they go on. I am not sure netting with one will help but 10-15 mins before you go out to bat if you picked up a heavier bat and swung it around it should help. Especially for ppl coming in late or with the intention of just hitting


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This may work in baseball where a batter stands at the mound for 3-4 pitches. This may not work when you want to play for 20+ overs. You better be strong physically to manage a heavy bat for that long. I believe, for every individual, there is a threshold for (heavy) bat weight at which the performance reaches a point of diminishing returns.
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