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[Nothing2SeeHere]

This may work in baseball where a batter stands at the mound for 3-4 pitches. This may not work when you want to play for 20+ overs. You better be strong physically to manage a heavy bat for that long. I believe, for every individual, there is a threshold for (heavy) bat weight at which the performance reaches a point of diminishing returns.

So to get back to bat speed (as opposed to hitting it further or faster), there may be mileage in using a lighter bat?

[Kez]

So to get back to bat speed (as opposed to hitting it further or faster), there may be mileage in using a lighter bat?

Yes- as F= ma (Force= Mass x Acceleration).

If you can move a lighter bat quicker you can hit the ball harder than a heavy bat at a slow speed.

[ProCricketer1982]

Yes- as F= ma (Force= Mass x Acceleration).

If you can move a lighter bat quicker you can hit the ball harder than a heavy bat at a slow speed.

Heavy bat brigade won't like this.. Can, worms, everywhere

[InternalTraining]

So to get back to bat speed (as opposed to hitting it further or faster), there may be mileage in using a lighter bat?

"lighter" in my opinion is a subjective term. For Gayle, 2-14 is a lighter bat.

I have found a balance between bat weight and necessary bat speed required to hit the ball long. My bat weight is 2-12/2-13. It's not light and it is not heavy. It is just right. I don't think I could hit big with a 2-6 bat. I used a 2-8 bat in a match and it was a disaster for me and my team.

Literally, a tooth pick wouldn't generate enough momentum to hit the ball long even though you will generate a lot of tooth-pick speed.

[InternalTraining]

Yes- as F= ma (Force= Mass x Acceleration).

If you can move a lighter bat quicker you can hit the ball harder than a heavy bat at a slow speed.

Really?

Can you hit a six with a tooth-pick? It is light and you can generate GOBS of speed with it.

[InternalTraining]

Heavy bat brigade won't like this.. Can, worms, everywhere

Light weigh bats are mythologized becauase of hand full of pros (Amla etc.). Us clubbies, need help and a heavy bat helps.

[brokenbat]

Really?

Can you hit a six with a tooth-pick? It is light and you can generate GOBS of speed with it.

Its all a balancing act. Your bat speed using a tooth pick will NOT be infinity. Each person has to play around with what works. I saw a Jamaica first class player hit monstrous sixes in a club game - he was using a 2 lb 7 oz feather.

Its not a simple calculation, but there is a tradeoff between bat speed and weight, within a certain range of weight (2 lb 6 to 3 lb, for most people).

Golf has a similar tradeoff, in terms of the shafts used on clubs. The "pros" will use stiffer clubs because they generate an insane amount of swing speed, while amateurs have to rely on more flex (I don't know the exact logic, you guys can google it and learn more if interested).

So there is no right or wrong weight...each person is different...but is likely to find his "ideal" weight within the 2 lb 6 to 3 lb range.

[brokenbat]

In golf, you have the luxury of having your swing measured and analyzed to come up with the best type of club to use. You can do this because its just one swing.
In cricket its impossible, because you have so many different types of swings (check drive, punches off back foot, cuts, pulls, baseball style power hits down the ground etc)... so its really just trial and error but the underlying logic of lower weight leading to faster swing speed (within a certain range of weights) is true.

[ProCricketer1982]

I couldn't care less what people use, the more that use heavy bats the better as I prefer lighter ones. However, I'm only a 2.9/2.10 guy so it's not that light really anyway.

From very simple deduction of going off who I know in real life (pro game and what they do is so far removed from amateurs it's pointless comparing ) ..

General rule

Heavy bat means a hitter
Lighter bat means technical player

Doesn't mean all slog but generally they'll hit through the line and a lot more in the air etc. Lighter ones tend to play more on the ground, wrists and touch are their skills.

Hey, the beauty of this sport used to be that there is a place for everyone's skills.. A place for the blocker, the nurdler, the slogger, the hitters and then the one guy who seemingly at that level can do it all. Times have passed/passing so the game is killing off a few types but hey ho.. As mr Crowe points out, it's all about 2020 now and hitting /slogging rules .

On another point, in the cricket paper today Paul Nixon mentions that most of the guys now playing 2020'wouod be laughed at if they asked for a pro contract before 2020..  Now they are rich and playing Fc cricket..

Heavy bats will dominate

[GoodLeave]

Yes- as F= ma (Force= Mass x Acceleration).

If you can move a lighter bat quicker you can hit the ball harder than a heavy bat at a slow speed.

Only on this forum will you find average blokes crunching numbers like this in order to improve their game! Do you think the local 5-a-side are using Trigonometry to work on their set pieces? Love it! 😄

[Kez]

Really?

Can you hit a six with a tooth-pick? It is light and you can generate GOBS of speed with it.

As @brokenbat says a bit of common senses is needed. Could you ( @InternalTraining) hit a six with a 10lb bat?

And @GoodLeave no chance I'm actually going to run any numbers on this, just the basic principle to prove a point.

And clubbies need the help of 2 lb 12+ bats to hit maximums... I'll remember that when I see a 2lb 8 clearing the ropes and politely ask them not to do it.

[InternalTraining]

As @brokenbat says a bit of common senses is needed. Could you ( @InternalTraining) hit a six with a 10lb bat?

And @GoodLeave no chance I'm actually going to run any numbers on this, just the basic principle to prove a point.

And clubbies need the help of 2 lb 12+ bats to hit maximums... I'll remember that when I see a 2lb 8 clearing the ropes and politely ask them not to do it.

Did you read my post? @brokenbat and I are saying the exact same thing - a batter has to find his own balance between weight of the bat and desired bat speed.

Clubbies who are clearing ropes at 2-8 bats are far and few; they have also played in the past at higher levels or are playing at higher levels. 

[InternalTraining]

From very simple deduction of going off who I know in real life (pro game and what they do is so far removed from amateurs it's pointless comparing ) ..

You have mentioned something similar before and I am genuinely curious about the details. What are they doing that is "far removed from amateurs"?

[ProCricketer1982]

You have mentioned something similar before and I am genuinely curious about the details. What are they doing that is "far removed from amateurs"?

St what point is anything in the amateur game like the pros?

Amateurs can hit like the pros so the game simply isn't the same. They can score at run rates well above amateurs without slogging, amateurs need to slog at those rates etc. It's quite simple really. Teams that try and play like pros tend to be hit and miss, and their payers just hit in the air a lot. Unlike pros who actually half place their shots etc.

It's a totally different game. The amateur game is more like the women's pro game than the men's !!

[edge]

Did you read my post? @brokenbat and I are saying the exact same thing - a batter has to find his own balance between weight of the bat and desired bat speed.

Clubbies who are clearing ropes at 2-8 bats are far and few; they have also played in the past at higher levels or are playing at higher levels.

Funny, I seem to remember batting with a clubmate who'd bought himself a 2lb6 bat and smashed 4 or 5 out of the ground in one innings a few years ago... I can assure you he has never played a high level of cricket and never will! (no offence meant if he ever reads this ha.)