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Re: which cricket ball, dukes intertional or sg test match / sf test
« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2016, 10:33:33 PM »

We use Tilfex balls in our league and they are terrible. They don't keep their shape (sometimes after 10 overs) and the leather seems to scuff really easily. The worst thing of all about them is they are bat breakers, such hard cricket balls.

The only other ball that I've used is Dukes, high quality cricket ball. We used to use to have one ball for whole game, scuffs the lot and would still probably last another 90 overs and be a really decent spare or net ball.

Yeahs dukes are the top brand in the uk and should be used every club

The key thing to consider before making sweeping statements such as the above, is that all the reputable manufacturers make very good balls, they also all make mid range and budget balls. To simply describe dukes as brilliant or tiflex as rubbish is a little short sighted. What model from the range was it? Or perhaps a more relevant question, what model did the league/manufacturer conspire to tell you it was? It's rife in cricket I'm afraid, a ball gets approved by a league, everyone likes it, the price season after season goes up, and after a while they simply issue a lesser ball hoping/assuming no-one notices and pocket the extra cash. Often it's distributed amongst the decision makers via brown envelopes and everyone in charge is happy with the status quo even if the clubs are screaming blue murder about poor cricket due to poor balls. I can't tell you the number of times we've unashamedly been asked for a Bung when discussing providing balls to a competition

Branding also has a huge impact. A long time ago now we took 3 local bowlers and batsmen all playing top level cricket and had them net together for a couple of hours, constantly asking for feedback on the various balls we gave them. The plain unbranded ball fared so so, the traditional cricket ball manufacturer branded ball fared the best and the Asian branded ball fared the worst, so poor they actually questioned why we had even asked them to test it. All balls were the same ball made by the same manufacturer.

Me personally, we use the top tiflex ball in our Saturday league and it's the best ball I've ever played with, unsurprisingly I've seen a lot of balls ( @FattusCattus this ones for you mate ) so I'm fairly well informed on the subject. Going back to what I mentioned earlier; on Sunday's we use a Readers ball and it is pants. It used to be decent but has clearly been replaced by a lower model in the range. Doesn't shine, doesn't swing, loses shape, nothing about the ball helps batters or bowlers

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Re: which cricket ball, dukes intertional or sg test match / sf test
« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2016, 10:40:10 PM »

Nathan just sent me a batch of their entire line. Warning me that the low grade are low grades.. I will be netting them through april/may, and I'll do a report. Tiflex seem to have a agenda, trying to grab hold on more leagues. And I am willing to help as the statement that vitas said about brown envelopes, or prices skyrocketing are very obvious here. We use kookaburra turf, white, and they go up £10 every year.. If tiflex new competitor could do as good, we have a competition, ergo, better prices!
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Re: which cricket ball, dukes intertional or sg test match / sf test
« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2016, 10:41:39 PM »

In the Northants league we use dukes and they are very durable and look like that have only been used for 10 overs after 50
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« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2016, 11:26:04 PM »

I completely agree the comments regarding the readers cricket balls. We use the readers sovereign ball and it does not swing feels hard. It will seem around for 10 overs then the seem goes soft and the ball loses its shape and does very little.
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Re: which cricket ball, dukes intertional or sg test match / sf test
« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2016, 12:42:45 AM »

Gray Nicholls Warrior, aren't worth the money, Nor are Newbery! Best ball ive used that stays in shape for a reasonable amount of time is Kestral at £15 each but then again doesnt always swing. But that could be down the weather and other conditions!

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« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2016, 10:06:01 AM »

We use Oxbridge owned by Tiflex.

Tiflex and the brands that they own might make very good balls, it just has yet to filter down into our league unfortunately and I haven't had the pleasure of seeing such. We get all sorts from very dark red balls that are hard to see for the batter and fielders, to balls that the leather scuffs after the first over and misshape.

I've used Duke and found them to be a decent, if not the best cricket ball that we've played with in league cricket.  Durable and of a good quality.

These are the only two balls that we have had supplied for our Saturday league cricket, so that is the recommendation that I can give. I could go on but I won't.





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Re: which cricket ball, dukes intertional or sg test match / sf test
« Reply #21 on: March 05, 2016, 10:20:43 AM »

Our league balls are unkown Indian import printed with our league sponsors logo.

They are awful but in the opposite way, I.e they are sos for they rarely last a game without being egged flattened or the seem tearing away.
If you bowl one Yorker in the net with them they are unusable.


So for winter nest I bought some dukes from ijc, they wasn't cheap, about 25 each or maybe more, but good balls, swung, and very durable.
But I finally sued my last one. And rather than replace with the same I went eslewhere.

New balls, are titled from jake @Vitas Cricket
I think they was around 12.50 and so far I am very impressed, looks and feel are spot on. Feel a high quality ball.
Done one net session, swings, and is in very very stable condition still. In fact the non attended side of a dukes was a lot worse after one net than the tifle.


I've had readers and kooks in the past. And neither impressed me. But I have a set of pink kooks to use this summer in our outdoor net for when it starts to get dark. Will see how they go.
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Re: which cricket ball, dukes intertional or sg test match / sf test
« Reply #22 on: March 05, 2016, 10:40:43 AM »

People seem to have very different experiences. I'm pretty sure our league balls are Readers. We play 95 over games and they seem to hold up pretty well. I often bowl in the mid to late overs and they are still swinging nicely - although they do scuff up a lot on really dry days.

Mind you, I could swing a jammy donut (if i hadn't eaten it already!)
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Re: which cricket ball, dukes intertional or sg test match / sf test
« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2016, 09:32:13 AM »

With regards to what balls we use - to the latter part of last season we started using the Choice willow test balls - priced at £7.50 each you cannot go wrong - we used them in a 40/40 on a sunday and I bowled the last over as  open but when I came up to grab the ball of the umpire it was still I near pristine condition and was still seaming and swinging - kept its shape and was a big hit in the club - Richard at choice willow gives a good discount on the joblot of balls.
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Re: which cricket ball, dukes intertional or sg test match / sf test
« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2016, 12:11:21 PM »

Have used Tiflex outdoors and in there yellow Australian Pug for indoor cricket. When we had a ball go wrong etc Tiflex always send out a replacements, they are a great company to work with and Nathan is a top bloke. I have to also say I have used GM medium to top end balls and both were extremely good.
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Re: which cricket ball, dukes intertional or sg test match / sf test
« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2016, 02:29:02 PM »

Depends a lot on the actual ball model more than the company - I've played with Readers that were brilliant and swung for pretty much the whole 50 overs, I've also played with Readers that went to bits straight away!
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« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2016, 02:42:32 PM »

We use readers county crown they about 14 pounds they hold up very well and do swing around and stay in a nice shape and hard still on a Sunday we use lords balls and they are some of the worst I come across to be honest ok for nets but not up to match use
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Re: which cricket ball, dukes intertional or sg test match / sf test
« Reply #27 on: March 06, 2016, 05:56:37 PM »

We use readers county crown they about 14 pounds they hold up very well and do swing around and stay in a nice shape and hard still on a Sunday we use lords balls and they are some of the worst I come across to be honest ok for nets but not up to match use

That's why you were so keen to give that one to me then!  ;)
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« Reply #28 on: March 06, 2016, 06:10:44 PM »

That's why you were so keen to give that one to me then!  ;)

That one was one of the first lords ball which was not to bad but the batch from last year was terrible mate they was so hard and made very horrible sound when hit we have been netting with the lords balls from two seasons ago and still holding up ok
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Re: which cricket ball, dukes intertional or sg test match / sf test
« Reply #29 on: March 09, 2016, 12:09:24 AM »

The Tiflex balls are very high quality in my opinion, definitely the best ball I've ever used! Not sure what grade it was again, but I think it was the 2nd best one. I think the Tiflex Magna is a decent ball too, had some pink ones and no issues with them other than folk knicking them!

hi thanks for the reply. iv seen the tiflex international and first class ball, looks great, at £60.00 a ball, not sure ill got for this esp if its not used by any modern international team. thank!  i might be tempted to buy one.
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