Topic: How to have more meaningful nets ? (Read 2244 times)

Silver Bullet · « **on:** March 30, 2016, 05:34:15 AM »

I find regulation nets, where people simply show up and smash the ball around to be meaningless and a waste of time. Sometimes, we're having nets, where a guy might be smashing the ball around and acting like he's just scored a hundred, whereas, he'd nicked the 2nd ball to the keeper, and top edged about 4-5 other deliveries straight up in the air. The bowlers are always bowling bouncers, like they're playing in Australia. These are damn near unplayable in the nets, but out in the park, these same balls then get smashed for sixes. Any one have any ideas on how you can make nets better prepare a team for the season ?

Here are somethings we currently do:
- Each batters turn ends with one bowler bowling a complete over. Bowler has to defend a target, Batsman has to score a certain amount of runs in that over. If batter gets out, his inning is done.
- For some lower order bats, the target happens at the start of their batting.
- Bowler's have to call a ball before bowling. i.e. they'd say I'm going to bowl a yorker on 5th stump, then execute on it.

Other things we've tried:
- Two batters in the nets, they run as if in a match situation, taking singles and doubles. Doesn't work thought, people just find it annoying.
- One/Two outs and you're done. Again, people severely object to that.

Woodyspin · « **Reply #1 on:** March 30, 2016, 05:47:47 AM »

Net on grass? Or is this mpt possible where you are?

smilley792 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 30, 2016, 05:56:11 AM »

Dude you missed of your first post how all quicks bowl of 19yards in a net. Then wonder why they can't beat a batsmen for pace in a game.....

kdale6 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 30, 2016, 07:49:47 AM »

Just take ownership of your own session and work on what you need to work on.

E.g. if you're batting go in with a game plan/situation in your mind that you have to play to whether that be protecting your wicket, scoring quickly, building an innings etc. Or work on specifics like hitting the ball into certain scoring areas or hitting over the top.

Even if you feel others have turned up just to turn their arm over or have a slog it doesnt mean you can't be productive

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #4 on:** March 30, 2016, 01:54:50 PM »

Do your own nets ! Club nets are utterly pointless

If you need to, rope one or two mates in who are decent and willing to bowl properly or where you want to train and just don't charge them for the net. I do that every weds afternoon, got two mates who are v good spinners so I get them to bowl to me for an hour. They get to bowl without someone just slogging or playing on the up etc. I get high quality sensible real life nets.

Same on Sunday's when I get pace doing the same.. I think I had one bouncer in 9 hours and barely any short balls as they know outside it'd get smacked so don't bowl there. Ok, costs me like �30 a week but it's fun

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 30, 2016, 01:58:03 PM »

Quote from: Silver Bullet on March 30, 2016, 05:34:15 AM

I find regulation nets, where people simply show up and smash the ball around to be meaningless and a waste of time. Sometimes, we're having nets, where a guy might be smashing the ball around and acting like he's just scored a hundred, whereas, he'd nicked the 2nd ball to the keeper, and top edged about 4-5 other deliveries straight up in the air. The bowlers are always bowling bouncers, like they're playing in Australia. These are damn near unplayable in the nets, but out in the park, these same balls then get smashed for sixes. Any one have any ideas on how you can make nets better prepare a team for the season ?

Here are somethings we currently do:
- Each batters turn ends with one bowler bowling a complete over. Bowler has to defend a target, Batsman has to score a certain amount of runs in that over. If batter gets out, his inning is done.
- For some lower order bats, the target happens at the start of their batting.
- Bowler's have to call a ball before bowling. i.e. they'd say I'm going to bowl a yorker on 5th stump, then execute on it.

Other things we've tried:
- Two batters in the nets, they run as if in a match situation, taking singles and doubles. Doesn't work thought, people just find it annoying.
- One/Two outs and you're done. Again, people severely object to that.

Put a box made of tape on th floor which is full of a length and top of off. Keep a record on how many and who bowls in said square the most... Take 50p from everyone's net money adm the winner gets the pot. Amazing how suddenly bowlers stop bowling short crap when money is on offer.. Of course, you could fine batsmen who are slogging or hitting on the up (or playing daft shots you know they don't play in a game) to stop them being idiots too

Silver Bullet · « **Reply #6 on:** March 30, 2016, 02:46:45 PM »

Quote from: ProCricketer1982 on March 30, 2016, 01:54:50 PM

Do your own nets ! Club nets are utterly pointless

If you need to, rope one or two mates in who are decent and willing to bowl properly or where you want to train and just don't charge them for the net. I do that every weds afternoon, got two mates who are v good spinners so I get them to bowl to me for an hour. They get to bowl without someone just slogging or playing on the up etc. I get high quality sensible real life nets.

Same on Sunday's when I get pace doing the same.. I think I had one bouncer in 9 hours and barely any short balls as they know outside it'd get smacked so don't bowl there. Ok, costs me like �30 a week but it's fun

Should've mentioned. I organize the club nets. It's on me to make them more productive.

InternalTraining · « **Reply #7 on:** March 30, 2016, 03:22:10 PM »

I play better in match scenarios when I have had pre-planned net sessions with a Bola machine. If I do have nets with bowlers, then I look for good quality bowlers to bowl me which improves my batting.

Here is my plan:

1. Individual Bola session for grooving. 65-70 mph speed. Practice hitting in the "V" with in-swing and out-swing at various lengths.
2. Nets with select bowlers. No hitting, no slogging. Staying in my "box" (ref: ABD CricketYard video on Youtube). Batting at merit. Max 2 bowlers. Rotate batting after every 18-24 deliveries. Caught behind or bowled are out and I lose my turn (meaning another batsman bats for his max allotted deliveries unless he gets out too).

It is pretty simple but it works.

Team nets were nothing but BS. People would hog middle time or whine for second or third batting turns. It was a major distraction and a waste of time.

HallamKeeper · « **Reply #8 on:** April 01, 2016, 10:29:26 AM »

I was in charge of organising our nets one season and quickly realised how pointless they were. The following season I just suggested we get together in 2s or 3s and work on specific stuff. We got together as a team for a fielding session or two before the season.

I now just have a coach helping me with a bowling machine and I go with a bowler for half an hour with me batting all the way through. I don't try to smash him just get in the frame of mind of the first over I'll face this season.

smilley792 · « **Reply #9 on:** April 01, 2016, 10:37:15 AM »

One year we sacked if nets during the season and switched to a double wicket game.

Partnerships drawn out of a hat.
5overs each
Winning pair got a fiver voucher each for behind the bar.

First 3 weeks we had 15 there, week 4 12, week 5 and onwards about 3 of us showing up, one week the 3 included the scorer!

It's cricket, no one turns up to takes it serious, yet football, you don't play if you don't train. I don't understand how that sport gets away with it and cricket doesn't.

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #10 on:** April 01, 2016, 02:43:01 PM »

Quote from: smilley792 on April 01, 2016, 10:37:15 AM

It's cricket, no one turns up to takes it serious, yet football, you don't play if you don't train. I don't understand how that sport gets away with it and cricket doesn't.

Footy will beat cricket for various reasons but relating to this, you can play footy for an hour and make loads of mistakes and no one cares/remembers them or even takes notice.. In cricket, when batting you have one life if it's 'serious' and so if you make an error it's game over, or you get bowlers bowing silly short balls at you etc.

Bowling wise, you'll bowl and perfectly good ball length to full of a length on off stump and in the nets you'll get slapped on the up everywhere or people will start playing scoops/paddles/reverse sweeps etc.. Which, if they are honest they wouldn't dream of playing in a serious game outside because they can't or they know they e'll be out most of the time (on the up shots etc)

So, IMO cricket nets/training doesn't lend itself to serious training st the amateur level because it's ruined as soon as one person starts slapping it or bowing like a tool

smilley792 · « **Reply #11 on:** April 01, 2016, 03:41:07 PM »

I'm disappointed you don't think id play all those silly shots In a game.

I do and regularly.

I play the game for my enjoyment, and I enjoy pulling those shots of, and actually kind of enjoy the abuse I get when they get me out.

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #12 on:** April 01, 2016, 03:43:09 PM »

Quote from: smilley792 on April 01, 2016, 03:41:07 PM

I'm disappointed you don't think id play all those silly shots In a game.

I do and regularly.

I play the game for my enjoyment, and I enjoy pulling those shots of, and actually kind of enjoy the abuse I get when they get me out.

I know you do

The majority though in general play shots in the nets they realistically simply won't play outside which is pointless (unless you're doing a specific skills session )

edge · « **Reply #13 on:** April 01, 2016, 05:43:26 PM »

Quote from: smilley792 on April 01, 2016, 10:37:15 AM

It's cricket, no one turns up to takes it serious, yet football, you don't play if you don't train. I don't understand how that sport gets away with it and cricket doesn't.

Always confuses me this, we ground share with a footy team and all the players who do both wouldn't dream of missing a footy training session. Do they turn up to nets? Never. Captains always moan but have never been willing to drop people who don't train. Only way I've seen work was at an old club - nets were semi-serious, meant for practice but chatting and enjoying yourself was no problem. Players were told that it's their choice to train or not but if they don't train and don't perform then someone who does train will be taking their spot in the 1s. Most turned up.

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #14 on:** April 01, 2016, 06:16:46 PM »

Quote from: edge on April 01, 2016, 05:43:26 PM

Always confuses me this, we ground share with a footy team and all the players who do both wouldn't dream of missing a footy training session. Do they turn up to nets? Never. Captains always moan but have never been willing to drop people who don't train. Only way I've seen work was at an old club - nets were semi-serious, meant for practice but chatting and enjoying yourself was no problem. Players were told that it's their choice to train or not but if they don't train and don't perform then someone who does train will be taking their spot in the 1s. Most turned up.

If clubs actively applied the 'dont train and you'll bat/play behind those that do regardless of ability' then the problem would be sorted. However, we all know clubs are desperate for playing numbers and winning at all costs matters most.

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