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Re: Batmakers experience
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2016, 05:19:54 PM »

Why belong to a forum dedicated to custom bats if you think that?

It's like an Arsenal supporter being on a Spurs forum.

That's very linear thinking and I would like to challenge you to broaden your understanding of life's unpredictability and complexity. If you continue down this path, you will never invent time-travel or a proper "Back To The Future" style hover-board. Just sayin'.  :D
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Re: Batmakers experience
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2016, 05:37:40 PM »

Pretty bold statement saying off the shelf bats perform better as I have found the complete opposite

Different strokes for different folks I guess as I prefer the individual pressing compared to the mass pressing process
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Re: Batmakers experience
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2016, 08:08:21 PM »

That's very linear thinking and I would like to challenge you to broaden your understanding of life's unpredictability and complexity. If you continue down this path, you will never invent time-travel or a proper "Back To The Future" style hover-board. Just sayin'.  :D

Thank god I've already sorted out my flux capacitor :D
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Re: Batmakers experience
« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2016, 12:30:59 AM »

Pretty bold statement saying off the shelf bats perform better as I have found the complete opposite

Different strokes for different folks I guess as I prefer the individual pressing compared to the mass pressing process

I have off-the-shelf bats that perform better than some of my custom bats. They are cheaper too and less hassle.
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Re: Batmakers experience
« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2016, 12:31:41 AM »

Thank god I've already sorted out my flux capacitor :D

Hehehe
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Re: Batmakers experience
« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2016, 12:51:02 AM »

I've only used B3 and Laver & Wood so far.

B3 is absolutely fantastic. I've gotten multiple bats from them, and its always such a pleasure dealing with them. As others have mentioned, service after getting the bat is tremendous. If they make a mistake they will rectify it without a second's hesitation. If your email doesn't get answered, I would just call them to follow up. Streaky is one of the nicest guys in the market and getting a Skype consultation is so much fun.

L&W: Very responsive to initial questions etc. Slight frustration is that its hard to actually talk to James himself but Anthony is super helpful. Once you put down your deposit / payment, James is a lot more accessible and you can discuss specifics to the Nth degree with him. And he is very knowledgable. Email response varies, but again, you can always follow up with a call if you think your email is lost. Worth mentioning that I was initially put off by their bats, because I thought they only make certain pre-set shapes, but that is not true. Its a fully customized service - you can specify whatever you want.

Both these two let you choose your cleft (as does every other custom bat maker now, if I'm not mistaken).

ONE BIG PIECE OF ADVICE: be VERY VERY specific with everything, no matter who the custom bat maker is. If you're picky about things, DO NOT ASSUME ANYTHING. You HAVE TO SPECIFY everything, even if you feel silly doing it. I feel that if you do that, you will avoid some of the problems mentioned earlier (getting a tiny bat that is made from a super dense cleft, wrong grade, wrong weight, etc etc).
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Re: Batmakers experience
« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2016, 06:57:08 AM »

And that's the key be specific don't assume give the batmaker a written list of your requirements and  get exactly what you want that way a custom made bat beats an off the shelf every time.
« Last Edit: April 03, 2016, 06:59:29 AM by Seniorplayer »
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Re: Batmakers experience
« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2016, 08:56:25 AM »

I have off-the-shelf bats that perform better than some of my custom bats. They are cheaper too and less hassle.

So your original statement said off the shelf bats perform better than custom now you have some off shelf that perform better than your custom

This is the point I think performance is willow and pressing and a custom maker can get crap willow and not press it right but an off the shelf maker gets so much in they are bound to get stunning willow through that the press settings they use just happen to make a stunner, I think @petehosk  had a £100 adidas that was as good as anything else in his 10000000000 bat collection so k won't dispute it can happen

Going custom for me is not about performance it's about the little things I need long blade, double bound handle, shape tweaking

I will say if people go custom for purely performance they are barking up the wrong tree for me but also I have found custom cheaper than the £500 off the shelf brands
« Last Edit: April 03, 2016, 09:39:24 AM by roco »
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Re: Batmakers experience
« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2016, 09:35:03 AM »


ONE BIG PIECE OF ADVICE: be VERY VERY specific with everything, no matter who the custom bat maker is. If you're picky about things, DO NOT ASSUME ANYTHING. You HAVE TO SPECIFY everything, even if you feel silly doing it. I feel that if you do that, you will avoid some of the problems mentioned earlier (getting a tiny bat that is made from a super dense cleft, wrong grade, wrong weight, etc etc).

Clear communication covering as much of the specifications as possible is very very important as it gives you a better chance of getting what you have in mind (it may still not be one hundred percent the way you want, especially for someone like me who reside outside UK and can't make a personal visit to the bat maker). From my experience so far, I have found the bat makers (those I have dealt with) on this forum to be quite understanding and professional. I go to them mainly because I like the experience and the shapes I request for are mostly not available on off the shelf bats.
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Re: Batmakers experience
« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2016, 09:48:17 AM »

I've found getting a bat I like copied is the only way to achieve a bat that I really really want. Even then, I've had a couple come back which tbh, I was very unhappy with as they were smaller pieces of wood or comcaved when I asked for full profile etc etc

Sadly, some makers will palm off heavier clefts because otherwise they'd be left with loads of unused ones. Now, if I don't get what I want I just send it back.
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Re: Batmakers experience
« Reply #25 on: April 03, 2016, 10:50:01 AM »

Reading through threads like this makes me wish I used my B3 experience a lot better :(

Not that it was B3's fault and I still have a mighty fine bat, I just didn't take the opportunity to get really specific, I should have took my time and gone through the clefts myself etc.

Ah well hey, lessons learnt and i'll definitely go back!
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Re: Batmakers experience
« Reply #26 on: April 03, 2016, 02:34:44 PM »

B3 is absolutely fantastic. I've gotten multiple bats from them, and its always such a pleasure dealing with them. As others have mentioned, service after getting the bat is tremendous. If they make a mistake they will rectify it without a second's hesitation.

Did you ship the "mistake" bats back to them? How much did you have to pay for shipping the bats back from the US?
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Re: Batmakers experience
« Reply #27 on: April 03, 2016, 02:37:48 PM »

So your original statement said off the shelf bats perform better than custom now you have some[/u] off shelf that perform better than your custom


No, I wrote "some custom bats". ALL my off-the-shelf bats are trampolines! I never count Lavers in the custom crap I got! Lavers are class apart.

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Re: Batmakers experience
« Reply #28 on: April 03, 2016, 02:38:29 PM »

I've found getting a bat I like copied is the only way to achieve a bat that I really really want. Even then, I've had a couple come back which tbh, I was very unhappy with as they were smaller pieces of wood or comcaved when I asked for full profile etc etc

Sadly, some makers will palm off heavier clefts because otherwise they'd be left with loads of unused ones. Now, if I don't get what I want I just send it back.

This has been my experience as well. Crap pressing and no-bow was the final straw!
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Re: Batmakers experience
« Reply #29 on: April 03, 2016, 02:44:24 PM »

No, I wrote "some custom bats". ALL my off-the-shelf bats are trampolines! I never count Lavers in the custom crap I got! Lavers are class apart.

Your original post does not say some

It says off the shelf bats perform better than custom ones

Off-the-shelf bats perform better and are less of a hassle.
« Last Edit: April 03, 2016, 02:47:32 PM by roco »
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