Topic: Boss Cricket (Read 19216 times)

liscon12 · « **Reply #15 on:** April 11, 2016, 03:18:28 PM »

I think the art of knocking in a bat has died a death now that manufactures are slapping pre-prepared or factory prepared stickers on them, so I think the idea about the warranty is okay but its maybe not worded in a good way, just makes it look like its forcing you to spend an extra 20.

Tom · « **Reply #16 on:** April 11, 2016, 03:21:14 PM »

Quote from: chrisbd on April 11, 2016, 03:10:39 PM

It's not as simple as that.

FOCUS and Phantom have both had something of an influence, although I can't exactly give a full disclosure due to the nature of our agreement when stocking BOSS.

But yes, for those in the know, FOCUS cricket UK is a Vitas Exclusive, but that doesn't mean that's the extent of the FOCUS entry into the market for this season.

With the stocking of what appears to be another restickering brand, who's provenance is not going to be clearly answered, I do have a little chuckle reading this back:

http://www.itsjustcricket.news/cricket-bat-manufacturers-vs-cricket-bat-brands/

skip1973 · « **Reply #17 on:** April 11, 2016, 03:26:42 PM »

Quote from: liscon12 on April 11, 2016, 03:18:28 PM

I think the art of knocking in a bat has died a death now that manufactures are slapping pre-prepared or factory prepared stickers on them, so I think the idea about the warranty is okay but its maybe not worded in a good way, just makes it look like its forcing you to spend an extra 20.

Warranties cover manufacturing issues, not cracking from edging, water damage, cheap balls etc. It just seems a bit like a scare tactic to spend more coin.

chrisbd · « **Reply #18 on:** April 11, 2016, 03:26:46 PM »

Hence why I didn't want to get into this conversation.

Ask yourself this question. If IJC was going to go against its principles in order to make some money, who would we do it with? An (at the moment) unknown company like BOSS, or someone like NB or GM? Doesn't really add up does it?

I have pictures of the guys behind the brand with the bat-maker, I have pictures of them with numerous different shapes which they discarded, I have pictures of them visiting and tweaking the shape. These bats are all made in England, and they are open about not making the bats, similar in a way to Phantom. However, they are in charge of the shape, they hand select the clefts before made by the bat-maker, and they hand select the bats once they've been made, and before they reach us. That's not a white label or a stickering brand Tom.

With respect, we have never once challenged or criticised your business. It comes across as petty and tarnishes all our reputation.

CBD

edge · « **Reply #19 on:** April 11, 2016, 03:30:04 PM »

Chris, if you dont want an debate about the origins of the bats, possibly the best way to clear it up would be to tell us about the bats? As it is, with the lack of information, Tom or anyone else is perfectly entitled to speculate, and obviously will.

chrisbd · « **Reply #20 on:** April 11, 2016, 03:34:01 PM »

The origins of the bats.

They are English made. That's all I can tell you.

If there's this much excitement, come and see them. Let your eyes tell you what the truth is, not speculation.

I just feel that the speculation from someone else in the industry is unnecessary and a little bit tacky if I'm honest. We've never slated or put down anyone else in this industry - certainly not without hard and factual evidence. That was my only point!

Vitas Cricket · « **Reply #21 on:** April 11, 2016, 03:34:55 PM »

Quote from: chrisbd on April 11, 2016, 03:10:39 PM

It's not as simple as that.

FOCUS and Phantom have both had something of an influence, although I can't exactly give a full disclosure due to the nature of our agreement when stocking BOSS.

But yes, for those in the know, FOCUS cricket UK is a Vitas Exclusive, but that doesn't mean that's the extent of the FOCUS entry into the market for this season.

We own and operate Focus Cricket UK rather than simply stocking it as an exclusive brand, so we have total control over our process. Anyway enough back and forth as I'm taking it off topic. Best of luck with Boss.

chrisbd · « **Reply #22 on:** April 11, 2016, 03:36:02 PM »

Indeed. Important to note that BOSS has nothing to do with FOCUS Cricket UK. More the Australian side of FOCUS.

Thanks Jake, likewise with you and the FOCUS Cricket UK stuff, looks some nice sticks you've put photos up of!

Chris

Northern monkey · « **Reply #23 on:** April 11, 2016, 03:36:12 PM »

220 quid plus another 20 to 'professionally ?' knock it in!! For grade two??

chrisbd · « **Reply #24 on:** April 11, 2016, 03:46:24 PM »

Here's a comparison.

And our knocking in is all done by hand also! And you can choose the weight of it exactly! And get specific photos of it! And free shipping, so works out �6 cheaper than the same option from H4L! (Not to say H4L are expensive, more to show you it's in line with the market!)

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I'm getting photos of the bats soon. You'll laugh at how they've been graded as 2s. I've seen G1 plus bats look, and ping, worse!

Tom · « **Reply #25 on:** April 11, 2016, 03:53:06 PM »

Quote from: chrisbd on April 11, 2016, 03:34:01 PM

The origins of the bats.

They are English made. That's all I can tell you.

If there's this much excitement, come and see them. Let your eyes tell you what the truth is, not speculation.

I just feel that the speculation from someone else in the industry is unnecessary and a little bit tacky if I'm honest. We've never slated or put down anyone else in this industry - certainly not without hard and factual evidence. That was my only point!

Was anything in my above post linking to the blog inaccurate? If so please PM me and I'll happily edit or remove it. I do try to comment here in a personal capacity, but appreciate with my links it might come off as petty.

To come back to your post - I'm not putting you or IJC down, rather making a point was that your post made a massive deal about honesty and the importance of provenance for consumers. Despite this you are yet to clarify who this brand is, where in the country the bats are manufactured and what they're selling. Your site which you linked us to barely does it. The site says Made in England, but isn't that the same as the 50+ other brands you mentioned in that blog post?

You're partial to more information about Boss, and I'm not doubting your decision making process, it's your business. But as your blog post said "Ask them the tough questions and see how they respond."

Alvaro · « **Reply #26 on:** April 11, 2016, 04:06:07 PM »

Do IJC ever do due diligence?

WalkingWicket37 · « **Reply #27 on:** April 11, 2016, 04:07:02 PM »

Hi @chrisbd
How's the forum hiatus going?

Quote from: chrisbd on April 11, 2016, 03:46:24 PM

Here's a comparison.

And our knocking in is all done by hand also! And you can choose the weight of it exactly! And get specific photos of it! And free shipping, so works out �6 cheaper than the same option from H4L! (Not to say H4L are expensive, more to show you it's in line with the market!)

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I'm getting photos of the bats soon. You'll laugh at how they've been graded as 2s. I've seen G1 plus bats look, and ping, worse!

So how much would a G1 warbird, including knocking in be from you?

Batbuddy99 · « **Reply #28 on:** April 11, 2016, 04:28:19 PM »

Am I the only one thinking BOSS Cricket sounds like Chris Gayles new brand or something?

uknsaunders · « **Reply #29 on:** April 11, 2016, 04:38:52 PM »

Quote from: Batbuddy99 on April 11, 2016, 04:28:19 PM

Am I the only one thinking BOSS Cricket sounds like Chris Gayles new brand or something?

I keep thinking of all the hugo boss stuff or BOSE. Not sure it's a name I would choose but good luck. I do share others concern that you can't really be open and honest as a company, yet so secretive about the brand. Isn't it a contradiction?

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