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Alvaro

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Re: England test xi 2016..... Who has an outside chance.
« Reply #30 on: April 17, 2016, 08:11:33 PM »

It feels like Root and Cook will have to carry the batting and hope Stokes comes off once and Bairstow maintains his form. Nos 1, 3, and 5 are musical chairs.
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Re: England test xi 2016..... Who has an outside chance.
« Reply #31 on: April 17, 2016, 08:35:33 PM »

I can honestly say I feel gutted that JT won't be playing again for England and had such potential. For me Root should move to 3, he's one of the best players in the world and should be given/take the responsibility. There seems to be a lack of depth in county cricket at the moment of real contenders. I'd like to see them give Roy a go. I know he's probably not ready, but he has talent as has shown he is capable of learning quickly. It's not the toughest summer either which could give him a chance to settle in. Otherwise Vince, but no way should we go back to Bell, no matter how stylishly he slays the county trundlers!
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Re: England test xi 2016..... Who has an outside chance.
« Reply #32 on: April 17, 2016, 08:36:37 PM »

80 odd mph? How quick does Jimmy bowl, McGrath? Not that I'm putting them in the same class, just saying because he's not 90 doesn't mean he shouldn't be considered.

Name me a better bowler in the CC?

I didn't say it was my opinion. I haven't seen enough of him to know if he's the best in the CC. He certainly seems to take wickets. But then Sam Robson and Adam Lyth seemed to score plenty of runs?
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Re: England test xi 2016..... Who has an outside chance.
« Reply #33 on: April 17, 2016, 08:40:54 PM »

I can honestly say I feel gutted that JT won't be playing again for England and had such potential. For me Root should move to 3, he's one of the best players in the world and should be given/take the responsibility. There seems to be a lack of depth in county cricket at the moment of real contenders. I'd like to see them give Roy a go. I know he's probably not ready, but he has talent as has shown he is capable of learning quickly. It's not the toughest summer either which could give him a chance to settle in. Otherwise Vince, but no way should we go back to Bell, no matter how stylishly he slays the county trundlers!

Roy!! Test batsmen??? You've seen his technique right?? Any half decent red ball attack would mince him

Vince I've not seen enough of
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Re: England test xi 2016..... Who has an outside chance.
« Reply #34 on: April 17, 2016, 09:02:22 PM »

Also for all this talk of Steve Davies I'd love to see Ben Foakes get a chance should something go awry with Bairstow/Buttler. Has the gloves for Surrey this season and a sound batsman to boot.

Roy isn't ready yet...
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Re: England test xi 2016..... Who has an outside chance.
« Reply #35 on: April 17, 2016, 09:13:35 PM »

I hate the phrase "isn't ready".
The truth is that his technique isn't good enough for test match cricket. Not ready isn't the right line, more got a lot of work to do to be a success.
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Re: England test xi 2016..... Who has an outside chance.
« Reply #36 on: April 17, 2016, 09:18:26 PM »

I hate the phrase "isn't ready".
The truth is that his technique isn't good enough for test match cricket. Not ready isn't the right line, more got a lot of work to do to be a success.

I'm guilty of using that about James Vince.
In his case I believe his technique is up to it, he just hasn't scored enough runs to warrant selection! Pretty and technically correct runs are worth the same in the book as ugly ones
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Re: England test xi 2016..... Who has an outside chance.
« Reply #37 on: April 17, 2016, 09:46:05 PM »

I don;t think the selectors will stray too far from their various squads, I suspect:


Cook
Compton
Hales
Root
Vince
Stokes
Bairstow
Ali
Broad
Anderson
Finn
Wood
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Re: England test xi 2016..... Who has an outside chance.
« Reply #38 on: April 17, 2016, 10:14:56 PM »

I'm guilty of using that about James Vince.
In his case I believe his technique is up to it, he just hasn't scored enough runs to warrant selection! Pretty and technically correct runs are worth the same in the book as ugly ones

If I remember correctly, Trescothick was quite similar - not really scoring mega runs in county cricket but they took the punt and he turned out to be an absolute England legend. Are England a bit scared to take the risk? Very possibly.
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Re: England test xi 2016..... Who has an outside chance.
« Reply #39 on: April 17, 2016, 10:31:17 PM »

Surely good technique increases likelihood of being able to step up a level?

I love watching Vince bat. My doubts about him would be temperament related.
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Re: England test xi 2016..... Who has an outside chance.
« Reply #40 on: April 17, 2016, 10:39:38 PM »

Also for all this talk of Steve Davies I'd love to see Ben Foakes get a chance should something go awry with Bairstow/Buttler. Has the gloves for Surrey this season and a sound batsman to boot.

Roy isn't ready yet...

An interesting call would be to bat Bairstow at five(again), and play a more natural gloveman. It won't happen, of course.

Ben Foakes really isn't ready. He hasn't kept enough in first-class cricket.
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Re: England test xi 2016..... Who has an outside chance.
« Reply #41 on: April 18, 2016, 05:43:14 AM »

Bell and Ballance will both be ahead of Vince unless he scores a lot of early season runs I suspect. Very open for the no. 5 slot though, Bell has to be the frontrunnner but room for someone new to score a hatful and get themselves in contention. Sam Hain seems highly rated? Top three deserve a chance again at the start of the summer, come the end of it Lyth/Robson/Lees could all be in the frame depending on scores.

Don't see any new bowlers coming into the team this summer, Broad/Anderson/Wood/Finn/Woakes/Plunkett are all too well established as test players. Footit maybe but unlikely.
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Re: England test xi 2016..... Who has an outside chance.
« Reply #42 on: April 18, 2016, 07:47:05 AM »

I agree that Ballance and Bell will be ahead of Vince. In fact, it seems quite likely that both could soon be back in the team.
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Re: England test xi 2016..... Who has an outside chance.
« Reply #43 on: April 18, 2016, 07:53:39 AM »

I think they'll line up very similar to the SA tour. As far as replacing JT I can't see them looking much further than people already around the various squads: Bell, Ballance or Vince mainly with Roy as a very very outside bet. I'm not saying it's necessarily what I'd do but I think that's how it will go.
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Re: England test xi 2016..... Who has an outside chance.
« Reply #44 on: April 18, 2016, 07:56:45 AM »

Borthwick will be ahead of Roy.
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