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Re: England test xi 2016..... Who has an outside chance.
« Reply #105 on: April 19, 2016, 07:19:13 PM »

Buzz is it not true that most players whether they are club,pro or internationals have some flaw in technique? And trying to correct one can bring another one you didn't think you had?

There must be others on the forum like some of us tried to fix one thing and end up out of sync with something else...

the best technically correct England player I've seen is mark ramprakash. He finished with a test average under 30 I think...
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Re: England test xi 2016..... Who has an outside chance.
« Reply #106 on: April 19, 2016, 07:25:27 PM »

Cook
Compton
Ballance
Root
Bell
Bairstow
Stokes
Rashid
Plunkett
Broad
Finn

Appreciate the need to bring on the young players, but only once the experienced players are done. Remember how Pirlo destroyed England at the World Cup... I'm pleased we've got players to fill the gaps once the experience goes.
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Re: England test xi 2016..... Who has an outside chance.
« Reply #107 on: April 19, 2016, 07:39:34 PM »

They need to demonstrate an adaptability and show they are working on their flaws. Ballance isn't doing that.

For what it is worth my team would be

Cook
Lees
Root
Davies
Hales
Stokes
Barstow
Moeen
Broad
Finn/plunkett
Anderson

He has adapted, found his own slightly different methods of scoring runs. As mentioned, look at Smith, worlds best, does that mean he has the worlds best technique? Does it hell, and thats clear for all to see.

All players have flaws in their technique, why focus on just Ballance?
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Re: England test xi 2016..... Who has an outside chance.
« Reply #108 on: April 19, 2016, 08:04:32 PM »

Cook
Compton
Ballance
Root
Bell
Bairstow
Stokes
Rashid
Plunkett
Broad
Finn

Appreciate the need to bring on the young players, but only once the experienced players are done. Remember how Pirlo destroyed England at the World Cup... I'm pleased we've got players to fill the gaps once the experience goes.

Is Pirlo t20 or odi??.........
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Re: England test xi 2016..... Who has an outside chance.
« Reply #109 on: April 19, 2016, 08:17:15 PM »

He has adapted, found his own slightly different methods of scoring runs. As mentioned, look at Smith, worlds best, does that mean he has the worlds best technique? Does it hell, and thats clear for all to see.

All players have flaws in their technique, why focus on just Ballance?
The focus on Ballance is because lots of people want him in the team and he isn't going to be picked and this is why.
Hales has technical issues, but is being given a extended run, Root has worked hard on his, as has cook.


Look at it differently, if your boss says, I need you to change the way you work to improve and offers help. Do you say, thanks I will try or no, I am fine as I am?
How do you think your boss will reply to the latter?
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Re: England test xi 2016..... Who has an outside chance.
« Reply #110 on: April 19, 2016, 08:28:30 PM »

Is Pirlo t20 or odi??.........

Oops. Forgot we only followed one sport. My bad!
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Re: England test xi 2016..... Who has an outside chance.
« Reply #111 on: April 19, 2016, 08:40:35 PM »

Buzz is it not true that most players whether they are club,pro or internationals have some flaw in technique? And trying to correct one can bring another one you didn't think you had?

There must be others on the forum like some of us tried to fix one thing and end up out of sync with something else...

the best technically correct England player I've seen is mark ramprakash. He finished with a test average under 30 I think...
I fully agree on the flaws in technique, I play a fairly decent standard of club cricket and at the start of the season I was batting really well so my technique wasn't questioned. My stance is on 2 leg and move across to middle as the bowler jumps into his action to help get my feet moving. When I was batting well there were no issues but when I had a couple of bad innings it became an issue and everyone started talking about it with me saying I move too much and lose my solid base. Trying to correct it this winter I started to push my back shoulder through squaring up.

I remember when years ago Cook was stepping outside of the line of off stump and getting LBW a lot, he sorted that and now he's become vulnerable of the ball on off stump now either getting bowled or nicking it to the slips or keeper.
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Re: England test xi 2016..... Who has an outside chance.
« Reply #112 on: April 23, 2016, 09:10:04 AM »

I fully agree on the flaws in technique, I play a fairly decent standard of club cricket and at the start of the season I was batting really well so my technique wasn't questioned. My stance is on 2 leg and move across to middle as the bowler jumps into his action to help get my feet moving. When I was batting well there were no issues but when I had a couple of bad innings it became an issue and everyone started talking about it with me saying I move too much and lose my solid base. Trying to correct it this winter I started to push my back shoulder through squaring up.



Two inches (and a quater, if we're being pedantic) is 'getting your feet moving'?
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Re: England test xi 2016..... Who has an outside chance.
« Reply #113 on: April 23, 2016, 09:15:22 AM »

The focus on Ballance is because lots of people want him in the team and he isn't going to be picked and this is why.
Hales has technical issues, but is being given a extended run, Root has worked hard on his, as has cook.


Look at it differently, if your boss says, I need you to change the way you work to improve and offers help. Do you say, thanks I will try or no, I am fine as I am?
How do you think your boss will reply to the latter?

He isn't going to be picked, but that is precisely **** all to do with his technique.  He isn't going to be picked because he isn't, as of this moment, scoring any runs...

If he were, he would be in.  He made the Yarpie tour with that technique, and is hardly the only player to keep the game that took them to the top level despite it being questioned (if Steve Smith, Shiv Chanderpaul and Graeme Smith, think about our own Messers Compton,  Taylor, Bairstow, Stokes...)
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Re: England test xi 2016..... Who has an outside chance.
« Reply #114 on: April 23, 2016, 09:19:10 AM »

Trust me, he hasn't been on an England tour and refused to work on his technique. Every player will have been working on their technique.
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Re: England test xi 2016..... Who has an outside chance.
« Reply #115 on: April 24, 2016, 09:30:27 AM »

Interesting story in yesterday's paper reporting as selectors consider possible changes to the batting order joe root has pleaded to stay at number 4-the position he has been amazingly successful.

Would it be mad to move him or is Ponting right 'your best batsman bats 3'.

KP never moved from his spot but lots of other players have. I wonder if they are considering a change in openers and maybe moving hales down the order, or possibly even trying to shoe horn butler in as keeper with bairstow just replacing JT

What's the thoughts on moving Root up?
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Re: England test xi 2016..... Who has an outside chance.
« Reply #116 on: April 24, 2016, 09:56:48 AM »

Leave him be. There is no need for Root & Branch change.
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Re: England test xi 2016..... Who has an outside chance.
« Reply #117 on: April 24, 2016, 10:00:15 AM »

I did say root was being moved to 3...

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Re: England test xi 2016..... Who has an outside chance.
« Reply #118 on: April 24, 2016, 11:00:12 AM »

Leave him be! If he performs at 4 and he obviously doesn't want to bat at 3, plus he is proving himself to be one of the best batsmen in cricket at the moment, why consider moving him?

In short...............
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Re: England test xi 2016..... Who has an outside chance.
« Reply #119 on: April 24, 2016, 11:16:25 AM »

Haha that's funny!
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