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[sharik09]

Guys,
I bought my first custom made Laver & Wood bat( spl. reserve) from James last week and I loved the way James has pod shaved it, Even appreciated him for producing such a beauty. But when I started to knock in, discovered spongy ping from Low sweet spot( 1 to 1 1/2 inch from toe) to Mid sweet spot( half of the bat). The bat is just 5 days old and I haven't been lucky to play with this beauty in the nets. Also another team mate from my league got same spl. reserve and he doesn't has the same issue.
Seems like the bat is de-laminated. Kindly advise I might be wrong coz my friend had a bat which got delaminated only after 2 seasons and it had to retire after 2 -3 months of performance.
Not sure if L&W will provide a replacement for this and I don't need a repaired bat which will last only few months. How should I deal with this bat.

Thanks in advance for your comments

[tom line]

If the bat was pressed whilst it was too dry or pressed too quickly that can lead to de lamination, so yes it is possible for a new bat to be delaminated

[brokenbat]

Guys,
I bought my first custom made Laver & Wood bat( spl. reserve) from James last week and I loved the way James has pod shaved it, Even appreciated him for producing such a beauty. But when I started to knock in, discovered spongy ping from Low sweet spot( 1 to 1 1/2 inch from toe) to Mid sweet spot( half of the bat). The bat is just 5 days old and I haven't been lucky to play with this beauty in the nets. Also another team mate from my league got same spl. reserve and he doesn't has the same issue.
Seems like the bat is de-laminated. Kindly advise I might be wrong coz my friend had a bat which got delaminated only after 2 seasons and it had to retire after 2 -3 months of performance.
Not sure if L&W will provide a replacement for this and I don't need a repaired bat which will last only few months. How should I deal with this bat.

Thanks in advance for your comments

first and foremost contact L&W.

[Seniorplayer]

Yes it's possible but have you knocked the bat in properly

[sharik09]

Thanks for your comments guys, I have contacted and share L&W pics of my New custom bat. Even though I knocked the bat more than 6 hours; James has requested to knock few more hours and try to play in nets for few weeks and check again.

[Sitonit]

But aren't laminated bats illegal in the first place? Why would James make a laminated bat?

[Batbuddy99]

But aren't laminated bats illegal in the first place? Why would James make a laminated bat?

Laminates are only illegal in first class (or any other professional) Cricket, so amateurs like us can still get them
Second of all I don't think he is referring to a laminated bat in the original post, just a normal bat that has delaminated

Thirdly this bar doesn't exist as there are no pics!

[jamferg]

Delamination is the partial seperation between the pressed layer of willow on the face and the wood underneath

[ppccopener]

Laminates are only illegal in first class (or any other professional) Cricket, so amateurs like us can still get them
Second of all I don't think he is referring to a laminated bat in the original post, just a normal bat that has delaminated

Thirdly this bar doesn't exist as there are no pics!

Bat buddy the are OK to use in league cricket? I didn't know that to my knowledge you cannot use them......
You learn something new every day on here 

[Seniorplayer]

Bat buddy the are OK to use in league cricket? I didn't know that to my knowledge you cannot use them......
You learn something new every day on here 

No they should not be used.

[Sitonit]

Laminates are only illegal in first class (or any other professional) Cricket, so amateurs like us can still get them
Second of all I don't think he is referring to a laminated bat in the original post, just a normal bat that has delaminated

Thirdly this bar doesn't exist as there are no pics!

Could be true.
My only concern was that usually big bat makers stay away from making stuff that is against ICC's rules - if in fact, OP is talking about the laminate that we know where two pieces of timber are glued together to make a fatter/bigger profile.

[WalkingWicket37]

No they should not be used.

This is an interesting point actually.
Do any amateur leagues actually enforce laws on bats? If so has anyone ever seen a batsman have to change their bat because the one they walked out with is illegal?

A grade A bat has just Willow in the blade, so a blade with a lamitoe or a dowel, despite being how manufacturers repair bats, is illegal for use in first class cricket. These are widely used in club cricket and nobody bats an eyelid because they aren't performance enhancers. I would be happy to bat with a dowelled bat as I know this wouldn't be giving me an unfair advantage over the opposition

Bats with TAS inserts fall into the same category as a laminate for me. I wouldn't personally use one, as they're designed to make the bat pingier than a "standard bat", but there's nothing in the league rules staying that you can't/shouldn't do so to my knowledge.

I think you could technically use an aluminium bat in club cricket, but that's a different kettle of fish again...

[glutton]

Do any amateur leagues actually enforce laws on bats? If so has anyone ever seen a batsman have to change their bat because the one they walked out with is illegal?

The 'lowest' form of cricket I have seen bats being checked for their legality was during the U19 World Cup, and even then that was done more so to help transition the players into experiencing that type of scrutiny, rather than any serious attempts to find illegal bats. So I myself can't imagine there are any amateur competitions out there inspecting or enforcing bats laws. 

[jamferg]

Could be true.
My only concern was that usually big bat makers stay away from making stuff that is against ICC's rules - if in fact, OP is talking about the laminate that we know where two pieces of timber are glued together to make a fatter/bigger profile.

OP is not talking about laminate bats at all

[smilley792]

OP is not talking about laminate bats at all

Can agree more james, I'm just sat shaking my head at this thread.