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[ppccopener]

I'm not sure why we need to "find a decent middle order batsman somewhere?" poor Vince has only had one innings batting at 5 and already people want him ditched and Bairstow up to bat at 5? Give the lad a fair crack of the whip at least! Or have I totally misunderstood the conversation? Wouldn't be the first time

oh this is mental, I think I need another coffee too, uksaunders has thrown us into a spin with the recall of Samit for India. Good player, can't help thinking of Gatting, eddie hemmings and Jessie ryder whenver I see SP and hark back to the days when these guys were described as 'big boned' .The Aussie from Glamorgan,Cosgrove I think, could give them a run for their money too.

Look  this is easy isn't it....Vince bats 5 and is gonna be in for a while, bairstow is a better batsman than Stokes, anyone disagree? ok......YJB bats in Stewarts old position at 6 and Stokes bats 7,Ali is currently batting 8.

howzat for an early morning line up?  now where's the coffee?

[northernboy1987]

I think the eventual senario would be drop Compton, move Vince to 3, move Bairstow to 5 and slot Buttler in at 7.

They'll probably want to fit Rashid in for India too. Vince to 3 Bairstow (or Ali) to 5 and Ali (or Bairstow) at 7 with Rashid at 8?

[liscon12]

Cosgrove is at Leicestershire, he's the club Captain now.

[edge]

Under no circumstances should Stokes be moved from 6! Have we not learnt from what happened when he was? (Also yes I disagree, he is a better bat than Bairstow).
If Bairstow keeps, he bats 7. It's only since he's been at 7 that he's looked halfway comfortable as a test player anyway, sorry. Plus still hasn't kicked the habit of missing straight ones in tests, couple of very close LB calls yesterday.

If Vince settles in and Compton doesn't get any, then Vince may move depending on who England want to put in - if Roy gets a load of runs between now and the end of the summer he could come in at 5, on the other hand we could see Robson or Lyth come in to the top 3. Wouldn't be against big Samit mind, the lad's a hell of a player. If we want two spinners in India we don't also need 4 seamers, so Finn goes for Rashid.

[Seniorplayer]

England's batting yesterday from Cook Root Vince and Stokes  was just risky as when there's cloud cover and the new ball is pitched up and seaming away from you driving is a poor shot selection. Although Bairstow did well he doesnt need to try and score runs off every ball.

[liscon12]

I think Samit showed us in the UAE he's not much of a spinner, can't see him taking may wickets in India and he got carted around the park as well, he's definitely a batsman who can bowl a bit and if that's the case what's wrong with Root bowling more overs come India and just having Rashid and Ali?

[Calzehbhoy]

England's batting yesterday from Cook Root Vince and Stokes  was just risky as when there's cloud cover and the new ball is pitched up and seaming away from you driving is a poor shot selection. Although Bairstow did well he doesnt need to try and score runs off every ball.

I thought Bairstow did well because he does look to score runs off every ball. Puts the bowling side under pressure. They know if they miss their lines/lengths they'll get punished.

[ppccopener]

I thought Bairstow did well because he does look to score runs off every ball. Puts the bowling side under pressure. They know if they miss their lines/lengths they'll get punished.

I know the ball was old(er) when he came in but I agree with manormaniac, he did look like he was playing on a different pitch to everyone else. He takes the attacking option every time.You can never tell of course but he might be a 'feast or famine' player rather than someone who gets 30's and 40's consistently but gets out....

[edge]

I think Samit showed us in the UAE he's not much of a spinner, can't see him taking may wickets in India and he got carted around the park as well, he's definitely a batsman who can bowl a bit and if that's the case what's wrong with Root bowling more overs come India and just having Rashid and Ali?

I agree, although he did bowl very well in the test he played I thought! Always thought England should look to develop their batsmen who bowl a bit in the bowling department, part time bowling is something it seems we've never been great at, particularly compared to the subcontinent teams who always have two or three decent part timers it seems.

[Seniorplayer]

I thought Bairstow did well because he does look to score runs off every ball. Puts the bowling side under pressure. They know if they miss their lines/lengths they'll get punished.

Your right he did do well but the situation England were in when he came into bat and  he knowing  what happens at Headingly when there's cloud cover and the ball is seaming  IMO he didn't   need to try and score off every ball also batting first in test matches you have the time  to be more  shot selective

[northernboy1987]

Under no circumstances should Stokes be moved from 6!

 If we want two spinners in India we don't also need 4 seamers, so Finn goes for Rashid.

I wholeheartedly agree with both of these points. Although I do like Finn! Regarding Stokes, he averages about 40 batting at 6, why would you move him?

[Manormanic]

Can't be many times the number seven has gone past the opener's score like this.

[rickjames]

God I love YJB

[roco]

Feast or famine here.

Will anyone stick around long enough to get YJB to his ton?

[ppccopener]

come on the Yorkie!!!!!