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That was a shane warne quality slider right there

[shax12]

What a bowler Yasir Shah is. Not even turning and he still picking up wickets. No wonder Shane Warne rates him so highly.

[ppccopener]

What a bowler Yasir Shah is. Not even turning and he still picking up wickets. No wonder Shane Warne rates him sp highly.

It doesn't need to turn and rip to be effective. Shah is a good bowler and we can't pick him......that's the problem. We've waiting all summer for a proper contest, we sure got one now

 

[shax12]

It doesn't need to turn and rip to be effective. Shah is a good bowler and we can't pick him......that's the problem. We've waiting all summer for a proper contest, we sure got one now

 

Yes that's the reason Yasir is one of the best or probably is the best test spinner around. And why Shane Warne rates him sp highly despite such a flat track and no turn he still so effective and adjusts.

Yes mate going to be a very good contest if the sun stays out when Pakistans batting lol.

[smilley792]

That was a guess from the umpire. And barely backed by hawk eye.


I reckon if he wasn't playing a sweep, the umpire would have never given that out.

[edge]

Regardless of review still going with out, that was a pretty poor decision. Barely making umpires decision both on outside the line and hitting the stumps. Pure guesswork by the umpire.

Woakes, please save us.

[ProCricketer1982]

Wow, look at all this world class batting from our white ball players 🙈🙈🙈👌👌😂😂😂

it's been a fairly low quality game so far sadly but Woakes has shown how much he has improved in fairness. He's above stokes for me as he's a better bowler and actually a batsmen rather than flat track hitter.  Got to give Vince and balance a few games before casting aside. Ali is simply not good enough

[uknsaunders]

Wow, look at all this world class batting from our white ball players 🙈🙈🙈👌👌😂😂😂

it's been a fairly low quality game so far sadly but Woakes has shown how much he has improved in fairness. He's above stokes for me as he's a better bowler and actually a batsmen rather than flat track hitter.  Got to give Vince and balance a few games before casting aside. Ali is simply not good enough

Err no.

Stokes everyday of the week instead of Ballance, why he wasn't picked as a batsman only I don't know. Ballance test average is on the decline (famous last words).

Vince is in his 4th test with not even a 50 to show. Test cricket isn't a development team. Your job is to score runs or take wickets. If you don't you shouldn't be there. We are carrying 2 batsman a game and asking cook,bairstow and root to carry them is not on. Even Ali and Woakes look more composed.

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Morene Ali looked not out..broad looked out.. they gotta fix this umpires call nonsense soon.

[ProCricketer1982]

Err no.

Stokes everyday of the week instead of Ballance, why he wasn't picked as a batsman only I don't know. Ballance test average is on the decline (famous last words).

Vince is in his 4th test with not even a 50 to show. Test cricket isn't a development team. Your job is to score runs or take wickets. If you don't you shouldn't be there. We are carrying 2 batsman a game and asking cook,bairstow and root to carry them is not on. Even Ali and Woakes look more composed.

Agree to disagree then, for me stokes is a one day hitter and not a test batsmen

[smilley792]

Agree to disagree then, for me stokes is a one day hitter and not a test batsmen

Lol.

Last time you said that he smoked the South Africans and you quit the Internet in a big fit.

[ElPerro]

Lol.

Last time you said that he smoked the South Africans and you quit the Internet in a big fit.

Stokes is a flat track bully, he's played some great innings that are used to hold him up as the ginger reincarnation of Ian botham but those mask what an average test match batsmen he is.

I'd love for him to prove me wrong over his career as when he plays like he did in South Africa it was a joy to watch!

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I would say England should drop M.Ali for Stokes. Let Root bowl some offies, if need be.

[uknsaunders]

Stokes is a flat track bully, he's played some great innings that are used to hold him up as the ginger reincarnation of Ian botham but those mask what an average test match batsmen he is.

I'd love for him to prove me wrong over his career as when he plays like he did in South Africa it was a joy to watch!

Stokes has tons at Perth, Cape Town, Lords v Aus, SA, NZ. Must make him a flat track bully as against popgun attacks lol

Ballance v the better attacks in world cricket? Oh dear...

[edge]

Stokes is easily a better test bat than ODI, when he's playing at his best in tests his judgment of what he can and can't hit is absolutely superb. That Perth ton for example, he just waited til Johnson et al put it in his area, then smashed it. Everything else was left or blocked. He's getting more consistent too, and that'll continue. Not to mention that so far the bigger the moment, the better he's performed - always a good sign!

In fairness to Ballance, I thought when he came in he actually looked very good against the seamers, which was the problem that got him dropped. Played spin very well in his first go at tests, give him more than one innings and he's got a decent chance of coming good. Vince doesn't look good enough for test level unfortunately, still think his selection is largely based on having a really nice cover drive as he's never scored consistent FC runs vs good attacks. Moving Root to 3 seems at first glance to have given us more problems than it's solved!

Early suggestion - Hildreth or Samit Patel considered for middle order? With Stokes/Jimmy to come back in and Vince/Ball/Finn to go from current XI. Then hopefully we just need a spinner, and now is definitely the time to give Ansari or Rashid a go as the main spinner before we head out to the subcontinent in the winter.