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[The Doctor]

I agree with everything @The Doctor  said, and would add that in modern one day cricket, the ball never gets soft as its never more than 25 overs old due to a new ball being used from each end.

Every batmaker i have spoken to says this is nonsense, but in a tongue in cheek way have declared it a brilliant idea, it will make their lives easier as they won't be required to produce huge bats, of course most of time people still expect them at lighter weights which is extremely difficult. My latest reference on this point that made chuckle is the guy on the forum asking about the Warner replica laminates that B&S have, and whether any were 2'8....

Just to add the document from the MCC is genuine, it had been left on the trade display stand of every batmaker when attended the Lords show.

I am quite happy to go on record and say this is a truly awful idea, and will have no impact in what they want to achieve. The quality of the document says everything about the MCC - just to make sure we are in 2016 and Cricket is a professional sport

[Vitas Cricket]

I am quite happy to go on record and say this is a truly awful idea, and will have no impact in what they want to achieve. The quality of the document says everything about the MCC - just to make sure we are in 2016 and Cricket is a professional sport

Yes shockingly worded, and i did a double take when i saw the dimensions of the guage at 110mm, i'm all for wider bats, i'll get bowled less 

[HallamKeeper]

From my own experience at a low level I use a heavy David Warner Kaboom for T20s and a much lighter GN e41 for other games. If I tried to slog with the e41 I would be out pretty fast as the edges aren't very big and they just pop up into the infield. I know I can get away with a poor connection with the heavy bat so I play the shot. When I connect properly I don't think it actually goes any further than with the other bat.

I have no idea if the top players have a similar mentality. Maybe with lighter bats or bats with thinner edges, the pros will not play the 'ugly' slogs as the reward may not be great enough for the risk.

You do see a lot of shots landing in the first few rows and maybe they will land in the fielders hands if the bats aren't as effective? I do like to see a 220 v 219 game more than anything. The dabs around the corner are my favourite, not so much the heaves over cow. The worst game is when the team is reduced to 50-6 and you get the feeling it is all over and the day of cricket you were anticipating has been ruined.

[mace9960]

Hello Everyone, Please Correct Me If I Am Wrong But The New Cricket Bat Regulation Change's Look Like They Are And Will Be Pushed Through Quickly And As Quitely As Possible In Time For The 2017/2018 Seasons. I Have Spoken To Companies Such As Warsop And Salix And The Information They Have Been Given Confirms The Regulations Will Be In Place By October 2017 And They Are Adamant On These Dates. The MCC/ICC Have Already Commissioned The Imperial College Of London To Produce Samples For A Bat Gauge And They Have Spoken To Companies Such As Laver & Wood And Salix Who Are All Advocates Of The New Regulations And Smaller Bats And Are Totally Against The Current Big Bat Market. Laver & Wood Have Even Gone As Far To Produced Their Own Bat Gauge Which The Show Cased And Previewed On Facebook And Twitter And Actual Sent To The MCC.
Some One Hopefully One Of The Forum Members " Needs To Champion The Big Bat Campaign " And Prove Or Disprove The Effect Of Big Bats. I Have Invested A Large Amount Of Time And Money Into My Cricket Bat Collection And Effectively Over Night Every Single One Will Be Outlawed. Now Every Forum Member Needs To Take A Look At Their Own Collection And Think How Many Of Your Bats Will Be Ruled Out With The New Regulations With A 35mm? Edge And A 60mm? Spine. Now Would You Really Want Your Bats To Be Sent Back To Have Them Reduced In Size To Conform To The New Regulations Or Be Forced To Spend Thousands Of Pounds Or Dollars On New Purchases To Obtain A Product That Is Basically The Same Or Similar To The Person Standing Next To You. Because Most People Will Find Their Current Bats Either Because Of Spine Height Or Edge Thickness Or Weight Will Be Outlawed And You Will End Up With A Nice Collection Of English Willow Paper Weights Or Art Work To Hang On Your Wall. The Next Thing You Will Say , Oh Don't Worry The New Laws Will Only Apply To International & First Class Cricket And Hopefully This Will Be The Case But Unfortunately They Are Looking To Enforce This Right Through All Levels Of Cricket. 

[Vitas Cricket]

But Unfortunately They Are Looking To Enforce This Right Through All Levels Of Cricket. 

Even if they do choose to ban at amateur level, it will be completely ineffective. Laminates have been banned for a number of years, we sold one last week, and i see them used fairly regularly in club cricket.

Any ban will be in the professional game and will also be in place to stop manufacturers producing 'illegal' bats going forward. In amateur club cricket it will be extremely difficult to enforce a ban on bats already made/purchased. The same happened when Carbon handles were banned, existing bats were fine to be used for the rest of their natural life, but no more were allowed to be made. Graphite backed Kookaburras, the inserts in the back of the M&H S6, the cork added into the gap drilled inside the blade of the original Hunts Turbo, all of these have been banned but the bats are still in use at club level. 

[mace9960]

Hello Jake, Vitas Cricket Their Insight Has Been Very Helpful As I Have Contacted Them Several Times On This Topic And They Have A Fantastic Insight & Knowledge. I Would Just Like To Take A Quick Moment To Say That Vita's Cricket In Particularly Jake's Service Is Above And Beyond Anyone Else I Have Dealt With In The Past And They Provide Such An Incredible Quality Product & Customer Service. Right Free Endorsements Over.
I Totally Agree It Will Be Hard To Enforce The New Laws Such As Laminates And Others Have Been Over The Years. But You Know As Soon As You Walk Out With A 50mm Edge, 75mm Spine 3LB+ CAVEMAN CLUB, There Will Be One Plonker {Ricky Ponting Wannabe} Who Will Start Kicking Up A Fuss And Sceaming It's Illegal And Want The Bat Removed. Every Team Has One.

[Vitas Cricket]

Hello Jake, Vitas Cricket Their Insight Has Been Very Helpful As I Have Contacted Them Several Times On This Topic And They Have A Fantastic Insight & Knowledge. I Would Just Like To Take A Quick Moment To Say That Vita's Cricket In Particularly Jake's Service Is Above And Beyond Anyone Else I Have Dealt With In The Past And They Provide Such An Incredible Quality Product & Customer Service. Right Free Endorsements Over.
I Totally Agree It Will Be Hard To Enforce The New Laws Such As Laminates And Others Have Been Over The Years. But You Know As Soon As You Walk Out With A 50mm Edge, 75mm Spine 3LB+ CAVEMAN CLUB, There Will Be One Plonker {Ricky Ponting Want To Be} Who Will Start Kicking Up A Fuss And Sceaming It's Illegal And Want The Bat Removed. Every Team Has One.

I'm guessing from the nice review and the interest in big bats that you are Rod? If yes then you certainly have some lovely, hefty bits of H4L willow in your arsenal!

I agree theres always someone, this year we had an opponent go down injured while batting, we asked a couple of times if he wanted a runner. He kept ignoring us, eventually we worked out that he thought we were taking the piss because he thought runners were banned. The ban on having a runner is an international playing regulation, and is nothing to do with the rules of cricket that govern amateur club level. This just highlights the confusion there can be when it comes to whats banned and at what level.

Without umpires it would be totally unenforceable if you ask me, there might be some argy bargy, but its the same as a wicket keeper keeping with old school gloves with a web thats way too big, if there isn't an independent umpire there to rule on it, the person who has an issue has a choice, either play or forfeit the game.
I've seen plenty of umpires who wouldn't know what a laminate was, others who are made aware of them have never done anything about it, just an answer along the lines of 'bloody well get on with it'

Me personally, i'm too weak to use a 3lb+ bat, but i've got a huge GN Pro Performance bat ordered up in a manageable weight, if i like it i'll be stockpiling a couple more before any potential ban comes in

[mace9960]

Hello Jake, I Forgot To Add Sherlock Holmes Sleuth Type Skills In Your Repertoire, In My Endorsement. Couldn't Have Been To Hard To Guess It Was Me. Yes I Have Contacted JS Wrights And Hell4leather And Expressed A Need To Stock Up On Oversized Clefts As I Will Be Placing A Bulk Order For New Caveman Clubs Before Any Ban Takes Place. Only Thing Is I Have Had To Reconsider A Custom Order From Marcus For A Beautiful Affinity Voodoo Monster Due To The Up In The Air Discussions Behind Closed Doors About The New Regulations. And This Could Effect Any Future Purchase's.

[mace9960]

Even if they do choose to ban at amateur level, it will be completely ineffective. Laminates have been banned for a number of years, we sold one last week, and i see them used fairly regularly in club cricket.

'illegal' bats going forward. In amateur club cricket it will be extremely difficult to enforce a ban on bats already made/purchased. The same happened when Carbon handles were banned, existing bats were fine to be used for the rest of their natural life, but no more were allowed to be made. Graphite backed Kookaburras, the inserts in the back of the M&H S6, the cork added into the gap drilled inside the blade of the original Hunts Turbo, all of these have been banned but the bats are still in use at club level.

Most People Wouldn't Spot A Laminate Cricket Or Carbon Handle Bat Or Be Bothered About A 38mm Edge. But When You Walk Out With A Caveman Club In Your Hands Everyone's Going To Notice The Size Of Your Willow. 

[InternalTraining]

I Totally Agree It Will Be Hard To Enforce The New Laws Such As Laminates And Others Have Been Over The Years. But You Know As Soon As You Walk Out With A 50mm Edge, 75mm Spine 3LB+ CAVEMAN CLUB, There Will Be One Plonker {Ricky Ponting Want To Be} Who Will Start Kicking Up A Fuss And Sceaming It's Illegal And Want The Bat Removed. Every Team Has One.

Why is that? Is there a way to spot these ani before they become part of your team? My team has one and it won't be easy removing him especially when your captain is not interested in removing ani from the team.

[Vitas Cricket]

I overheard a phonecall today with the lawmakers at the MCC who confirmed there would be a moratorium for amateur cricketers to use their bats that don't conform. The length of the grace period hasn't been decided yet but considering they estimated is would be at least 3 years (from October 2017 when the law is apparently scheduled to change) before the regulations came in at minor counties level, i think club cricketers will be fine for the foreseeable.

[SteffanLangholz]

I overheard a phonecall today with the lawmakers at the MCC who confirmed there would be a moratorium for amateur cricketers to use their bats that don't conform. The length of the grace period hasn't been decided yet but considering they estimated is would be at least 3 years (from October 2017 when the law is apparently scheduled to change) before the regulations came in at minor counties level, i think club cricketers will be fine for the foreseeable.

Our tournament heads said they will force the rules on us...... In Denmark... Really... Do it to the internationals, not to us random blokes.

[Blank Bats]

I'm not sure why there is so much negativity about this, can't beat a bit of good old timing when playing a shot.

[procricket]

And the fact size is not in truth why it goes miles....

[Blank Bats]

Well said Dave.

Well I for one am looking forward to round face making a comeback.