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Re: Is your match bat going to be declared illegal?
« Reply #30 on: July 13, 2016, 10:48:43 AM »

I presume they'll have a gauge like the one in Lavers photo and that'll prevent any false edges to get round the rules, same goes for most other imaginative shapes that I can think of.

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Re: Is your match bat going to be declared illegal?
« Reply #31 on: July 13, 2016, 01:12:11 PM »

I would not be surprised if the the regulation will not be on bat size, but instead on raw cleft size.
How would you police that?
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Re: Is your match bat going to be declared illegal?
« Reply #32 on: July 13, 2016, 01:19:38 PM »

Someone on Twitter said they should regulator moisture content only.


Yeah I can see players wanting to let umpires spear there bat for a reading mid game!
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Re: Is your match bat going to be declared illegal?
« Reply #33 on: July 13, 2016, 01:56:09 PM »

How would you police that?
There are probably 8 willow firms in the UK, so just need buy in and agreement from them.

Back in 2013 when the issue was first discussed I believe this was the proposal following discussion from Kember and Ruggles.
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Re: Is your match bat going to be declared illegal?
« Reply #34 on: July 13, 2016, 03:18:19 PM »

Most of my bats are within 35-40 mm range. However the so-cal doesn't enforce many of these restrictions. Laminated bats are still used by many players and they don't ask them to replace it. Honestly many people don't know what laminated bats are !!!
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Re: Is your match bat going to be declared illegal?
« Reply #35 on: July 13, 2016, 03:42:35 PM »

Most of my bats are within 35-40 mm range. However the so-cal doesn't enforce many of these restrictions. Laminated bats are still used by many players and they don't ask them to replace it. Honestly many people don't know what laminated bats are !!!

Haha. I was thinking about that! Clubbies have it good.
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Re: Is your match bat going to be declared illegal?
« Reply #36 on: July 13, 2016, 11:27:00 PM »

I have three bats and all mine would be legal. Dont feel edge and spine height make much difference, two of them are fantastic. Wouldnt bother me, i reasonably confident it will make no difference to the totals teams are scoring anyway.
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Re: Is your match bat going to be declared illegal?
« Reply #37 on: July 14, 2016, 06:06:42 AM »

I have three bats and all mine would be legal. Dont feel edge and spine height make much difference, two of them are fantastic. Wouldnt bother me, i reasonably confident it will make no difference to the totals teams are scoring anyway.
My match bats are all legal under these description. The best of those is the B3 1271 (mod) which is so good because of the amount of wood in the blade rather than the height of the spine/edges. It's shape is very similar (in reality) to that of the late 80s/early 90s SS Turbo. Both bats that have a lot of wood, zero concaving and neither hugely pronounced spine nor edges. It also weighs 2lb 10oz.

And I still hit sixes with it. Against opening bowlers. Yeah. It's definitely the bat, and not my practising, learning to hit differently thanks to LMS or the fact that for the last couple of years I've been to the gym a lot and massively improved my strength. 
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Re: Is your match bat going to be declared illegal?
« Reply #38 on: July 14, 2016, 06:41:27 AM »

Haha. I was thinking about that! Clubbies have it good.

Noticed a non-striker using CA15k bat while umpiring last week. It was a laminated bat and he was boasting about how he got a genuine CA for a cheap price from Dubai. I just controlled my laughter and said good work ...  :D
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Re: Is your match bat going to be declared illegal?
« Reply #39 on: July 15, 2016, 12:58:30 PM »

My match bats are all legal under these description. The best of those is the B3 1271 (mod) which is so good because of the amount of wood in the blade rather than the height of the spine/edges. It's shape is very similar (in reality) to that of the late 80s/early 90s SS Turbo. Both bats that have a lot of wood, zero concaving and neither hugely pronounced spine nor edges. It also weighs 2lb 10oz.

And I still hit sixes with it. Against opening bowlers. Yeah. It's definitely the bat, and not my practising, learning to hit differently thanks to LMS or the fact that for the last couple of years I've been to the gym a lot and massively improved my strength.

Glad u agree, Im not that bothered about giant bats. Fair play for the gym work, not very amatuer cricket.

I guess my point was, who cares? Bring it in, nothing will change. I know some on here and david warner like huge bats but will not make a difference.

 I picked up a 1271 at a trade fair at edgbaston a few years back and i was amazed at the pick up if that one. Debated getting one since ever since.
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Re: Is your match bat going to be declared illegal?
« Reply #40 on: July 15, 2016, 02:27:38 PM »

Most of my bats are within 35-40 mm range. However the so-cal doesn't enforce many of these restrictions. Laminated bats are still used by many players and they don't ask them to replace it. Honestly many people don't know what laminated bats are !!!

Laminate's what i've got on my floor, can't imagine it being any good on a bat
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Re: Is your match bat going to be declared illegal?
« Reply #41 on: July 15, 2016, 03:13:12 PM »

Just bought a new Blank Bats B2 - 38mm edge so I'm out. Checked all 5 of my bats and don't think one of them would fit! D'oh!
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Re: Is your match bat going to be declared illeg
« Reply #42 on: July 15, 2016, 07:39:19 PM »

MCC - lets consult with the bat makers. Bat maker - shhh lets tell them 60 /35 so the market has to buy more bats. Queue evil laughter Hahahaha

Surely there is a conflict of interest here?

MCC should have been able to make the decision on the information already presented. Whilst consultation is important this feels like the MCC sharing responsibility? If I was a bat maker I'd say, look It may level the playing field so we can all compete, assist with sustainability, etc etc but I'm distancing myself from this as I don't make the rules you do.




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Re: Is your match bat going to be declared illeg
« Reply #43 on: July 18, 2016, 09:16:50 PM »

MCC - lets consult with the bat makers. Bat maker - shhh lets tell them 60 /35 so the market has to buy more bats. Queue evil laughter Hahahaha

Surely there is a conflict of interest here?

MCC should have been able to make the decision on the information already presented. Whilst consultation is important this feels like the MCC sharing responsibility? If I was a bat maker I'd say, look It may level the playing field so we can all compete, assist with sustainability, etc etc but I'm distancing myself from this as I don't make the rules you do.

And the demand for high density willow will surely increase, which from what i hear is more common than low density clefts. Does the size of the bat actually matter anyway? Speed+Mass=Velocity or something like that? Why would a huge low density cleft hit the ball further than a small high density cleft? Unless the low density wood acts as some sort of a spring
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Re: Is your match bat going to be declared illegal?
« Reply #44 on: July 18, 2016, 09:44:35 PM »

im guessing my mongoose mmi3 probably wouldnt pass the test. its a shame of this does happen and stop innovation like mongoose in cricket.

i suppose though manufacturers will find other ways to make it work
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