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Mankad Made Easier
« on: July 13, 2016, 12:29:19 PM »

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Re: Mankad Made Easier
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2016, 01:07:07 PM »

I hate this rule, just get on and bowl. if you back up too much and the batter hits it straight at the bowler they can run you out

it's really annoying when they go "HAHAHAHAHAHA" as they knock your bails off
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« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2016, 01:13:18 PM »

I like this.

Even as a batsman, I think pinching yards should be punishable. The amount of times I've seen batsmen half way down the track when the ball is delivered.

Back up at your peril.
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Re: Mankad Made Easier
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2016, 01:16:54 PM »

I like this.

Even as a batsman, I think pinching yards should be punishable. The amount of times I've seen batsmen half way down the track when the ball is delivered.

Back up at your peril.

What punishment do you think should be introduced?

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Re: Mankad Made Easier
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2016, 01:20:40 PM »

One of the lads in my league got mankaded on Saturday, embarrassing to be honest, I hate the rule. Just hurry up and bowl.
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Re: Mankad Made Easier
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2016, 01:29:35 PM »

I think the mankad should be part of the game, however I believe a warning should be delivered first.

I feel this should be the case because unlike other dismissals, you are not beating the batsman on your ability.

Whilst some batsman are trying to steal a yard, see Jos Buttler vs SL, I feel it is harsh on someone backing up in normal manner and at most can be accused of carelessness, see the U19 WC mankad.

After a warning, no batsman has a leg to stand on.

My personal worry with changing the rules is that we'll see it more often in club cricket. I don't think umpires I have played with would know either way if the batsman was out or not. Another reason why a warning may be suitable. A warning being as easy as informing the umpire/non striker that if he doesn't be careful you will mankad him, although appreciate a physical warning would make sure everyone was aware.

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Re: Mankad Made Easier
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2016, 01:51:34 PM »

Make backing up just like a no ball is for the bowler.

The umpire calls the batsman for being over the line at the point of delivery. If its called any runs are cancelled but the batsman can still be out. Takes away any benefit from backing up too far then.

The problem will be with the umpire calling it I guess as they struggle enough with no-balls!
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Re: Mankad Made Easier
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2016, 01:57:01 PM »

does anyone see a difference with this on Saturday league cricket and sunday friendlies?

I saw this done on a Sunday (friendly) this season without a warning. the umpire(a kid) did not know whether to give the batsman out or not

I asked the bowler what the *****£££££&&@@@@@@ he thought he was doing and he mumbled some garbage.

I spent post match apologising to the opposition who are a good bunch.

So I really don't like this mankad stuff.

For league cricket......hmmmmmm  if a warning was issue prior yes probably but there would need to be a clear warning....and i'm not even sure then if I was Captain whether I would uphold any appeal from my bowlers
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Re: Mankad Made Easier
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2016, 02:11:07 PM »

Make backing up just like a no ball is for the bowler.

The umpire calls the batsman for being over the line at the point of delivery. If its called any runs are cancelled but the batsman can still be out. Takes away any benefit from backing up too far then.

The problem will be with the umpire calling it I guess as they struggle enough with no-balls!


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Re: Mankad Made Easier
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2016, 02:50:06 PM »

This to me is a no brainer. When I am at the non-striker's end, I stand out of the crease but importantly with my bat grounded behind the line watching the bowler's delivery action. As sonn as the bowler releases the ball, I am off down the wicket and at nearly 51 years old, I easily can make it down the other end to any reasonable call. There is absolutely no need to start striding off down the wicket before the bowler has delivered the ball and if you've been warned once, you deserve to be given out.
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Re: Mankad Made Easier
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2016, 03:15:10 PM »

We had an mankad incident a couple of weeks ago when we needed 3 to win of 2 balls.

The bowler did give the batsmen a warning, but the frustrating thing was that he wasnt leaving the crease before the bowler entered his delivery stride. Basically the bowler was running up and then not letting go of the ball - waiting for the batsmen to leave his crease and then took the stumps.

Got into a fairly heated debate with the league president (who is the bowlers Father!) but was told that it was up to the umpires so decided it wasnt worth debating. Ultimately it didnt affect the result as we had wickets in hand but still lost, but was frustrating.
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Re: Mankad Made Easier
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2016, 05:27:43 PM »

sorry this is nonsense. Does the keeper ever warn the batsman about stumping's. All cricketers know which part of the pitch is theirs and which isn't. My only issue is that there is a different rule for ODI's and other cricket. In the league I have batters 2 yards out of their crease before i release the ball. That's cheating, I'll run them out, bugger warning the cheats. Its either a Law or not.
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Re: Mankad Made Easier
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2016, 08:39:08 PM »

What punishment do you think should be introduced?

I think being given out, run out, is punishment enough. For me the only embarrassed party should be the batsmen. You wouldn't bat out of your crease to the spinner, so why set off down the track before the bowler has delivered the ball?
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« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2016, 08:43:49 PM »

I hate this rule, just get on and bowl. if you back up too much and the batter hits it straight at the bowler they can run you out

it's really annoying when they go "HAHAHAHAHAHA" as they knock your bails off

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Don't leave your create until the ball is actually bowled?? Stop stealing yards.. Tbh, im becoming more a fan of the mankad as it's annoying when batsmen are stealing yards in games and think it's acceptable 'backing up'
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Re: Mankad Made Easier
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2016, 09:32:39 PM »

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Don't leave your create until the ball is actually bowled?? Stop stealing yards.. Tbh, im becoming more a fan of the mankad as it's annoying when batsmen are stealing yards in games and think it's acceptable 'backing up'

Stealing a base in baseball is considered allowed but you can be run out, backing up too much is considered stealing and you can be run out... not the only sport to have something similar.
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