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Rashid ..
« on: July 22, 2016, 09:45:39 PM »

Please can someone/anyone explain why he is considered by internet supporters to be virtually the next Warne?

He has done well in odi cricket where the pace off the ball and the fact batters have to go after the bowling which gives him an advantage.

But seriously test matches?

He will get smashed.
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Re: Rashid ..
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2016, 09:55:58 PM »

I think he should get a few tests to see how he does, as a second spinner. It says alot he is second to a batter ....

There is a spot for rashid with stokes ali and woakes in the lower order.
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Re: Rashid ..
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2016, 09:58:48 PM »

Please can someone/anyone explain why he is considered by internet supporters to be virtually the next Warne?

He has done well in odi cricket where the pace off the ball and the fact batters have to go after the bowling which gives him an advantage.

But seriously test matches?

He will get smashed.

Because to improve, you need to play against the best. He could improve, but only by playing test matches.

Will Hegel smashed? Maybe, but maybe not.

Look at Warne. He went 1-335 in his first 4 test matches.

He's also the best "proper" spinner England have. Some times you have to give the guy a shot and say, let's see what you can do in the next 12 months.

I do think "the next Warne" would be a almost a miracle, more like "the next MacGill"
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Re: Rashid ..
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2016, 10:00:26 PM »

I think it's more that he's considered by internet supporters to be better than Moeen Ali. Which isn't difficult at the moment!

In fairness, he's definitely got more consistent this year. Given that Ali is contributing nothing, why not try Rashid instead? Rashid did take a 5fer only a couple of games ago.
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Re: Rashid ..
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2016, 10:02:30 PM »

He did a lot more than Moeen managed in the UAE.
Don't get me wrong, he's no Shane Warne, but he's certainly better than what we currently have in the side.
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Re: Rashid ..
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2016, 10:05:23 PM »

Because for some reason Saint moeen can do no wrong but is truly awful. Play a proper spinner
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Re: Rashid ..
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2016, 12:06:08 AM »

Surely he's worth a punt he's no warne or shah but surely he can contribute to more than Ali is ATM
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Re: Rashid ..
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2016, 12:27:54 AM »

Ali could yet take a ten-for at OT. Feels like he's in last chance saloon though.
There must be some one better out there? If not Rashid then why not Batty, or Treadwell or Ollie Rayner or someone? Surely an insult to these career pros that they think Ali is a better bowler?
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Re: Rashid ..
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2016, 08:49:40 AM »

Who said he was the next Warne?

Bad trolling from Buzz, pointless thread, isnt all of this spoke about in the pakistan england thread
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Re: Rashid ..
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2016, 09:04:37 AM »

Who said he was the next Warne?

Bad trolling from Buzz, pointless thread, isnt all of this spoke about in the pakistan england thread

He does sent to have a proper bee in his bonnet r.e Rashid.
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Re: Rashid ..
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2016, 09:22:25 AM »

Agreed. Didn't appreciate the tone of Buzz's original post.
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Re: Rashid ..
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2016, 04:03:11 PM »

Who said he was the next Warne?

Bad trolling from Buzz, pointless thread, isnt all of this spoke about in the pakistan england thread

Not trolling. I don't think Rashid has enough to be a successful test spinner. Everyone seems to do Moeen down and I wanted to understand why people like him. I wanted to have a different thread to the Pakistan one as it isn't the same topic!

It is telling that no one has said his first class stats, how he has bowled for Yorkshire in the last year or so. How have his lions performances been?
What about the time when he... (Add specific brilliant performance against a quality side) 

It is all saying we don't like moeen.

No one can justify Rashid's selection through performance. I recognise he is a decent player but I think he isn't going to offer more than moeen does.
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Re: Rashid ..
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2016, 06:03:40 PM »

Wouldn't Saqlain qualify for England these days ?..... he's already in the dressing room so why not get him ouf there !  ;)
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Re: Rashid ..
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2016, 06:22:37 PM »

Obviously rashid has performed well in the recent odi series, but the lad will never come on as a test bowler if he isn't given the chance, if he's given the chance and doesn't give us much then least we'll then know but you can't say he wouldn't offer much if he's not given a go
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Re: Rashid ..
« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2016, 07:12:46 PM »

I think the only way he was going to play in this Test was as a second spinner. In hindsight, with nearly 600 runs on the board, he perhaps should have done!
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