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[alexhilly1492]

Joe Root is a good bloke

As far as i could tell, root broad stokes and bairstow all went up to sabbir and congratulated him on his knock, id say most of the english team did!

Fabulous test match and as people have said Bangladesh are not a bad side in hope conditions, if you add mustafizur back into the side and they look even stronger!! good things to come from what is still a young side by all accounts, hope they push England hard again in the next test!

[WalkingWicket37]

Joe Root is a good bloke

How do we know he wasn't saying "that's 1-nil to us, and you're sh!t"? 

[wasted_talent]

Given the closeness of this test... And analysing it... Do England even stand a chance of been competitive in India?

Too many potential flaws in this England side atm. Ballance? Opener? Spinners not really threatening?

Or is that too harsh an assessment?

[alexhilly1492]

Possibly a little harsh as bangla are not as bad of a side as we all think, and in regards ot selection, yes hameed opening and duckett at 4 would be preferable but we have what we have and we won a very tough and hard fought test match, in india i think with the experience of winning last time another hard fought and competitive series will happen

[wasted_talent]

Possibly a little harsh as bangla are not as bad of a side as we all think, and in regards ot selection, yes hameed opening and duckett at 4 would be preferable but we have what we have and we won a very tough and hard fought test match, in india i think with the experience of winning last time another hard fought and competitive series will happen

fair enough. just worries me, that possibly Hameed will be asked to make his debut in such tough conditions. I think ideally, they needed Ballance to score runs here so they could preserve with him.

Also worrying me is the England spinners. Not sure they will pose a threat to the indian batting?
Arguably, a better spin attack (NZ), didn't pose much threat. So not sure how Englands trio will cope.

Going to need Cook, Root to score big and then hope to create scoreboard pressure?

[ppccopener]

fair enough. just worries me, that possibly Hameed will be asked to make his debut in such tough conditions. I think ideally, they needed Ballance to score runs here so they could preserve with him.

Also worrying me is the England spinners. Not sure they will pose a threat to the indian batting?
Arguably, a better spin attack (NZ), didn't pose much threat. So not sure how Englands trio will cope.

Going to need Cook, Root to score big and then hope to create scoreboard pressure?

yes quite right we will. But don't underestimate our seamers. We have done it before in spin friendly conditions and they could well play a big part in India. Looks like there could be some reverse swing for us.

But it's a very tough ask to even draw there...

as for the spinners...Batty turns out a good choice, Ali bowled well, Rashid is not consistent enough but not many have bowling wrist spin, he does get wickets.
Ansari untried don't think he is ahead of the other 3...

Ashwin is waiting for us and with DRS now being used I would suggest we are up against it.

 

[wasted_talent]

yeah agreed, seamers will have a bigger part to play than most may think. going to need them to be on their game, as don't think the spin trio will have much threat...

ashwin and jadeja both, in tandem are a handful on the recent wickets that india have been producing.

[ppccopener]

the spinners we have......are facing batsmen who are simply superb at playing spin, it's natural to them as unnatural as it is to us.

Indian batters over the years(ive seen a lot of them) are so good it's scary.

We probably have the best 3 spinners out there, how much impact they have not sure....

we are no where near as good as India in the spin dept, we def have better seamers.

as an England fan, I would be absolutely delighted with a drawn series.

head says we won't thou !!

[alexhilly1492]

unless 2 of the spinners have series of their lives (similar to moeen vs india at home) then were in trouble but not as much as people think we will be! the likes of woakes stokes and broad maybe even ball will be our saving grace in the series and i think they'll take more wickets than a lot of people think, and for the sake of a balanced side i cant see how jimmy can play, its him or broad for me and id rather have broad in the side for the subcontinent. i also hope that ballance is dropped although i like him in the side in english conditions

[six and out]

The other thing about the India series is i hope that Cook has his lucky calling hat on because winning the toss will be vital over there.

Although the Kiwis were vastly outplayed, Williamson last the toss in all 3 tests - India batted 1st put over 300 (500 in the 3rd test) on the board and then that allows Ashwin to bowl with the fields he wants and less pressure etc...

Plus the obvious that batting last will not easy at all! As we saw in this test.

[ppccopener]

The other thing about the India series is i hope that Cook has his lucky calling hat on because winning the toss will be vital over there.

Although the Kiwis were vastly outplayed, Williamson last the toss in all 3 tests - India batted 1st put over 300 (500 in the 3rd test) on the board and then that allows Ashwin to bowl with the fields he wants and less pressure etc...

Plus the obvious that batting last will not easy at all! As we saw in this test.

exactly right there, NZ got the rough end of the toss every time.Very unlucky they are a far better side than the scoreline ended up in that series

[Buzz]

I think we are overestimating the quality of the indian batsman against spin, Panasar and Swann showed they weren't that amazing against it, just more used to playing it.

The England team have an issue that the top 4 aren't scoring enough runs. That has been an issue for a very long time.

This is not separate to the quality of our spinners. It is linked. If our top order were scoring runs our middle order would invoke havoc on a tired attack. Giving our spinners more of a total to bowl at and more attacking field placements.

Our spinners aren't in the class of Swann and Panasar but we have to make do with what we have. It isn't as if there is any one else.

My view is you play the same team (or swap Ansari for Rashid) and carry on. The mix of 3 and 3 seamers and spinners is fine.

The top 4 must score runs.

I would like to see hameed bat at 4 plus hopefully Duckett won't be so nervous in the next test.

[petehosk]

Like I have been saying, we need Ansari to have a run out - he offers left hand variation and looks like Rashid could be the one to rest next Test hopefully!
And we really need to test Hameed out (I would open with him) before England go to India - the obvious person to rest is Ballance!!

[CrickFreak]

The last series in India was largely won by Cook, KP, Swann and Panesar. There were some good knocks by Prior etc and few good spells by Jimmy also, but largely, IMO these 4 guys made 75% of the difference. Out of these 4, 3 are not in the present squad and someone from current squad has to match the standard of cricket they played. That will decide if it will be a draw or england lose.

[Stuey]

The other thing about the India series is i hope that Cook has his lucky calling hat on because winning the toss will be vital over there.

Happy to DHL my lucky pants.