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[edge]

Lots of chatter from Cook after the game that there would be rotations in the next test, I think there's a strong chance we'll see one or two changes depending on the pitch.

[petehosk]

Yes! In that case,

Cook, Hameed, Rooooot, Duckett, Ali, Stokes,
Bairstow, Woakes, Anzari, Broad, Ball? 

[InternalTraining]

exactly right there, NZ got the rough end of the toss every time.Very unlucky they are a far better side than the scoreline ended up in that series

I saw highlights of one of the test matches - 1st or 2nd, don't remember which one - and it looked like NZ batted very timidly, lot of soft dismissals.  I cannot say that it was lack of skills or foreign conditions but the psychologically weak effort by them.

[ppccopener]

Yes but who for rotation? 

Nick knight (muppet) thinks ballance could make way but instead of then playing four spinners Butler comes in the middle order.
Athers says today four spinners is quite possible in the next match.

We want to win this series but must have one eye on India. From what I have seen of Ansari he looks totally average, just my opinion .....but India have a lot of right handers and like a few on here is it best to play him now to see if he could fit against India?

I do think the selectors got it slightly wrong , hameed is an opener and should open, Duckett at 4. That way as ballance was already under pressure from last summer if he is dropped ansari could bat middle order and be a spin option.
If we wanted another batter and the three spinners Butler could slot in instead of ballance.
We are going to need Rashid I think going forward and batty to keep it tight under pressure.
Ali is a shoe in....
Bayliss is loyal and (I think) will want one more test for ballance. He's clearly a good player but is short of runs.

I suspect there might be some forum members thinking ansari could play instead of Rashid?

[Bats_Entertainment]

Erm, Duckett is also an opener?

[ppccopener]

Duckett does open and bats 4 as well.
Hameed is an opener..
I must be missing something on the forum as others have suggested hameed 4 duckett 2.
Perhaps my brain is frazzled.if hameed is to play he should bat where he does for lancashire..
As much as i like Cook we are looking for an anti cook to open- hales,duckett,lyth?

I cant see how we would play a youngster out of position?
Am i going mad?
 

[jamferg]

still too much matiness going on in the squad. You're not rested ...its dropped.. places are taken for granted otherwise. Its England not a premiership football squad. Best 11 in and everyone out and fights for a shirt. Cook is a terrible captain and is apt to stick with 'mates' rather than performances. Balance hasn't justified selection never mind performance. They will nee Hameed sooner or later so play him!

[Bats_Entertainment]

Duckett does open and bats 4 as well.
Hameed is an opener..
I must be missing something on the forum as others have suggested hameed 4 duckett 2.
Perhaps my brain is frazzled.if hameed is to play he should bat where he does for lancashire..
As much as i like Cook we are looking for an anti cook to open- hales,duckett,lyth?

I cant see how we would play a youngster out of position?

Who does Duckett bat at 4 for?

[FattusCattus]

It doesn't matter where Duckett bats (and I'm sure I've seen him bat at 3 for Northants in the past, although I could be mistaken!), his type of game looks well suited to bloomin' well getting on with it anywhere in the top 5 to me.

India do have some decent seamers, and they will get a run out early doors, so decent openers are a must. From what I've heard about Hameed, he's more of a steady type, so surely it makes sense to have him opening and not trying to change his game, whereas Duckett's slightly more gung-ho attitude will work just as well at 4?

we know what Balance can do, get both the 2 youngsters in 2nd test to see what they can do.

[JTtaylor145]

I think Broad will be 'rested' for the next game with Ball replacing him. Balance has to go, I'm not fussed who comes in for him. Balance just doesn't look like he has a scoring option at the moment. I can't really see us bringing in a fourth spinner although they could drop Broad and just use Stokes and Woakes as the seamers.

I fear for us in India 

[FattusCattus]

Here's a crazy idea - try Ansari for Moeen in the next test. Mo hasn't been rested recently, and it's like for like as a batter / bowler.

[petehosk]

Yes! In that case,

Cook, Hameed, Rooooot, Duckett, Ali, Stokes,
Bairstow, Woakes, Anzari, Broad, Ball? 

I did mean Batty and not Ball, although I would like to see Ball get a game as he looked in excellent nick!
Bayliss did mention (hint) as bowlers getting a rest to ensure that the busy schedule doesn't knacker them out in hot conditions!
With that I hope he means that Ball will get a game or two. And as Ansari needs to get a few games bowling to the right handers!!!
Worryingly Bayliss didn't mention the batting! If he doesn't make the change with batters then I really will question his brain!
Sods law is that he will play Ballance who will hit a double ton!

[ppccopener]

that's a good shout to be fair. looks like we are 'resting' players in the next match. Ali will be in tests and one dayers.

Ansari is a straight swap, as is Ball for Broad. Agree with JT above, I like Balance, but there's only so long you can stay in the side without a contribution
Balance has been in longer than I was in my club side when I got AXED !!   
I have a feeling England won't play Hameed(and put Duckett 4) but I really hope they do......

[six and out]

people are saying rest Broad but i honestly don't see why - he didn't play in the 1 dayers and only bowled 23 overs in the whole match.

surely if you want to rest a seamer you rest Woakes who played in all formats all summer and in the one dayers.

I really hope that Ansari and Hameed also get a run out but i don't think they will!

my side -

Cook
Hameed - in for Ballance
Root
Duckett - moved to 4
Mo
Stokes
Bairstow
Ansari - in for Batty - this is purely rotation because you know what you get from Batty so there is no real need for him to play in the 2nd test
Rashid - he needs overs and to see if he is good enough
Broad
Ball - in for Woakes

This way you basically get a look at Hameed and Ansari and Woakes get a rest.

[ppccopener]

people are saying rest Broad but i honestly don't see why - he didn't play in the 1 dayers and only bowled 23 overs in the whole match.

surely if you want to rest a seamer you rest Woakes who played in all formats all summer and in the one dayers.

I really hope that Ansari and Hameed also get a run out but i don't think they will!

my side -

Cook
Hameed - in for Ballance
Root
Duckett - moved to 4
Mo
Stokes
Bairstow
Ansari - in for Batty - this is purely rotation because you know what you get from Batty so there is no real need for him to play in the 2nd test
Rashid - he needs overs and to see if he is good enough
Broad
Ball - in for Woakes

This way you basically get a look at Hameed and Ansari and Woakes get a rest.

Good side six and out....

I think the reason Broad is being mentioned is because Anderson is out of the 1st test in India and they don't know if he will play the second, so Broad could have a tough winter without Anderson.

I think also....Jimmy is getting injuries and they can't be sure he will play a full part in India.