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Re: The Future of Bat design
« Reply #60 on: November 16, 2016, 10:14:35 PM »

How about, make the pros, use the same bat for a season?
That would stop the stupid over drying for a start

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Re: The Future of Bat design
« Reply #61 on: November 16, 2016, 10:20:12 PM »

How about, make the pros, use the same bat for a season?
That would stop the stupid over drying for a start

What happens when it breaks due to it being a natural product(over dried or not). Is that the pros season done?  Does he start on minus ten for every innings?? Does he have to bat left handed??

I can't think of a single punishment that won't make cricket look pathetic
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Re: The Future of Bat design
« Reply #62 on: November 16, 2016, 10:29:23 PM »

What happens when it breaks due to it being a natural product(over dried or not). Is that the pros season done?  Does he start on minus ten for every innings?? Does he have to bat left handed??

I can't think of a single punishment that won't make cricket look pathetic

I've played cricket over 40 yrs now, it's only in the last ten years I've seen bats break
The percentage that break because it's a natural product, against the percentage that break due to being dried to 6per cent or lower?

The whole things a joke
Are they gonna restrict stokes going to the gym? Are they bol@@cks
Sort the fielding restrictions,boundary size etc first

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Re: The Future of Bat design
« Reply #63 on: November 16, 2016, 10:33:55 PM »

I've played cricket over 40 yrs now, it's only in the last ten years I've seen bats break
The percentage that break because it's a natural product, against the percentage that break due to being dried to 6per cent or lower?

The whole things a joke
Are they gonna restrict stokes going to the gym? Are they bol@@cks
Sort the fielding restrictions,boundary size etc first


About 20 years ago my dad was going through 3 or 4 Duncan fearnleys a year. He was a hard hitting batsmen, but not great, so toes and edges galore went.
He'd only buy that brand though, no idea why.


Agree that they need to help bowlers out more, not try and restrict batsmen with stupid unforcable changes.



Going of local league issues and complaints regarding cricket clubs and ground sizes, I wouldn't be supriced if the law makers added a "six and out" rule to the amateur game.
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Re: The Future of Bat design
« Reply #64 on: November 16, 2016, 10:38:07 PM »

REVOLUTION BLACK 👍👍👍👍👍👍
These rules and regulations will not apply to ammatures just like in the Golf Industry Proffesionals only
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Re: The Future of Bat design
« Reply #65 on: November 16, 2016, 10:45:51 PM »

These rules and regulations will not apply to ammatures just like in the Golf Industry Proffesionals only

That's not what we have been told.....
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Re: The Future of Bat design
« Reply #66 on: November 16, 2016, 10:58:17 PM »

Then bat makers will buy kilns (the ones that have n't got them already).

This argument is as equally as bad as the MCC's.

The best way to readdress the balance is to look elsewhere;

1. Ball - longer periods of use/ more pronounced seem / engineered irregularities
2. Fielding restrictions
3. Uncovered wickets

Not so sure. You did say that cleft moisture wasn't the issue but I think it is the root cause of the 'problem' (if it is indeed a problem). It has certainly revolutionised the amount of willow available for bats these days. Not sure it can be monitored though - not unless there was an app made. Even then what would you do ?! Umpire - "Your bat has 12% moisture according to my app - now go and soak it in water to get it back to 14%". Where you play in the world changes moisture anyway. That was just me throwing out ideas that I hadn't spent hours pondering on - just thoughts. If they do decide upon measurements I do like the idea of a sliding scale. Nightmare for a bat maker - but better than one size fits all. Again, I'm not actually saying I think they should introduce new restrictive laws either - but if they do (and it looks like they might) then surely its better to throw the suggestion of incremental changes according to weight. If you can hold a 4 lb bat surely it should be BIG ! Thats natural - Not just heavy but big. So 2 lb 10 = 35mm, 2 lb 14oz = 39mm.....etc etc. If you can hold a heavy bat then surely you deserve it to have big edges otherwise whats the point ?! You'd end up with innovation as well as a huge range of bats, and batsmen would need to be selective on weight keeping in mind balance. Again, not a great scenario but better than ALL bats having to be 35mm edge and a 65mm spine. There'll be a middle ground and a solution somewhere - but its clearly not all bats being the same size regardless of weight.
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Re: The Future of Bat design
« Reply #67 on: November 16, 2016, 11:11:17 PM »

They could always stop making bats from wood and specify a material, weight range and max dimension
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Re: The Future of Bat design
« Reply #68 on: November 17, 2016, 11:08:59 AM »

Could put a counter balance in the handle and put the weight there instead of in the willow. Would still allow for innovation in bat making,  help the pickup and make it less easy to make big bats without limiting creativity.
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Re: The Future of Bat design
« Reply #69 on: November 17, 2016, 11:26:26 AM »

How about, make the pros, use the same bat for a season?
That would stop the stupid over drying for a start

F1 style, only allowed 4 bats per calendar year, i like it!Means more pro clefts for us too.
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Re: The Future of Bat design
« Reply #70 on: November 17, 2016, 12:15:14 PM »

Could put a counter balance in the handle and put the weight there instead of in the willow. Would still allow for innovation in bat making,  help the pickup and make it less easy to make big bats without limiting creativity.

Not a bad idea - the issue isn't just size of the bat as you say its the available light willow when compared with 15 years ago. Again Im not saying I have a strong opinion either way. I quite like the idea of uncovered pitches - restricted to say the first 15 minutes of rainfall otherwise it could wipe out play unnecessarily too often. But with health and safety more of a concern in the modern game I really cant see that being chosen as a way to improve the balance between bat and ball. It'd be fascinating from a spectators point of view though.
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Re: The Future of Bat design
« Reply #71 on: November 17, 2016, 12:53:38 PM »

Not a bad idea - the issue isn't just size of the bat as you say its the available light willow when compared with 15 years ago. Again Im not saying I have a strong opinion either way. I quite like the idea of uncovered pitches - restricted to say the first 15 minutes of rainfall otherwise it could wipe out play unnecessarily too often. But with health and safety more of a concern in the modern game I really cant see that being chosen as a way to improve the balance between bat and ball. It'd be fascinating from a spectators point of view though.

Uncovered pitches might sound an interesting proposition but actually it would be detrimental to my favourite area of the game; leg spin. Back in the days of true uncovered pitches flatter finger spin proliferated because of the extra assistance (deadly derek underwood for instance). Harder truer pitches are actually better because the extra tweak generated from the wrist is needed to really spin and bounce the ball. And I'd say promoting leg spin is only going to make life harder for batsmen ultimately and redress the balance between bat and ball in a more meaningful way. Last thing anyone wants to see is a generation of flightless,  boring spinners who can only bowl well on a sticky dog.
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Re: The Future of Bat design
« Reply #72 on: December 30, 2016, 06:05:02 AM »


This bat shape and design is still unfair! It seems to have a bias in favor of the batsman.

I hope ICC puts a restriction on the length of edge at its fatest point to be not more than 3 inches in length.

Edge width should decrease in both directions from the 3 inch sweet spot for shoulder to be not more than 15 mm and toe should be not more than 12 mm

This will separate boys from men, and put those batsmen to test who are dreaming to go after the bowlers with this kind of bat.
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Re: The Future of Bat design
« Reply #73 on: December 30, 2016, 06:46:59 AM »

This bat shape and design is still unfair! It seems to have a bias in favor of the batsman.

I hope ICC puts a restriction on the length of edge at its fatest point to be not more than 3 inches in length.

Edge width should decrease in both directions from the 3 inch sweet spot for shoulder to be not more than 15 mm and toe should be not more than 12 mm

This will separate boys from men, and put those batsmen to test who are dreaming to go after the bowlers with this kind of bat.
Are you on some sort of stupid comment quota?
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