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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1350 on: December 12, 2016, 03:09:03 PM »

For me, at the end of the day, when all is said and done etc... etc... the worst thing I think is that England haven't actually learnt that much on this tour. Which is a great shame.

Apart from Hameed and possibly Jennings everything else was pretty much already known. Rashid and Mo aren't good enough and fold under pressure therefore we don't have spinners to compete with India's. India's batters are amazing in their conditions, particularly Kohli who is in the form of his life!

We just didn't do anything different to try and shake India up in their own backyard and if you ask the same question all the time you will always get the same answer.
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1351 on: December 12, 2016, 03:16:15 PM »

I don't dislike anyone. But apart from Moeen being a "quota pick" he's simply not good enough. Period.

Classy.
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« Reply #1352 on: December 12, 2016, 03:24:38 PM »

If not one of us can decide on a team, realistically what chance do the selectors have?

In sub continent conditions we do not have any inked in picks other than Cook, Root, YJB, Stokes, Anderson & Broad(When fit). The rest of the team is still developing and has a cloud of doubt over them. Come back to English/SA/Oz conditions and you then have Woakes that joins the inked in places (In my opinion anyway).

India have 2 spinners that are inked in, wherever they play in the world Not a single inked in pick for England is a spinner, that is main problem in Indian conditions.

To add to this I know people will say Ali is nailed on to play, but that is out of necessity, not choice.
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1353 on: December 12, 2016, 03:28:31 PM »

If not one of us can decide on a team, realistically what chance do the selectors have?

In sub continent conditions we do not have any inked in picks other than Cook, Root, YJB, Stokes, Anderson & Broad(When fit). The rest of the team is still developing and has a cloud of doubt over them. Come back to English/SA/Oz conditions and you then have Woakes that joins the inked in places (In my opinion anyway).

India have 2 spinners that are inked in, wherever they play in the world Not a single inked in pick for England is a spinner, that is main problem in Indian conditions.

To add to this I know people will say Ali is nailed on to play, but that is out of necessity, not choice.
TBH Anderson's only nailed on to play in countries where they use the Duke ball
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1354 on: December 12, 2016, 03:29:40 PM »

TBH Anderson's only nailed on to play in countries where they use the Duke ball

Rubbish!
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« Reply #1355 on: December 12, 2016, 03:36:35 PM »

Rubbish!
Look at his record. Sucks in Australia, South Africa and New Zealand where they use Kookaburra. Struggles in Sri Lanka again the kookaburra. Poor in India and the SG

He goes well in West Indies and UAE as they use the Duke
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« Reply #1356 on: December 12, 2016, 03:41:22 PM »

Look at his record. Sucks in Australia, South Africa and New Zealand where they use Kookaburra. Struggles in Sri Lanka again the kookaburra. Poor in India and the SG

He goes well in West Indies and UAE as they use the Duke

you dont take 400 wickets and be poor in 75% of the test playing nations, he's one of englands greatest ever bowlers if not the greatest, to say hes not an auto pick is complete and utter rubbish!
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1357 on: December 12, 2016, 03:44:18 PM »

you dont take 400 wickets and be poor in 75% of the test playing nations, he's one of englands greatest ever bowlers if not the greatest, to say hes not an auto pick is complete and utter rubbish!

how dare you

its all about stats and avg now
it doesn't matter how many runs or wickets you have or how many games you win for the team

if your avg isn't sub 10 in all conditions your (No Swearing Please) (if your English that is or part south African in wrong colours)
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1358 on: December 12, 2016, 03:46:54 PM »

you dont take 400 wickets and be poor in 75% of the test playing nations, he's one of englands greatest ever bowlers if not the greatest, to say hes not an auto pick is complete and utter rubbish!
No way near the greatest English fast bowler. Trueman was twice as good
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1359 on: December 12, 2016, 03:48:11 PM »

Larwood was better again.
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« Reply #1360 on: December 12, 2016, 03:49:19 PM »

Larwood was better again.

doesn't count as played on doctored English wickets and batsmen were bribed to get out to him
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1361 on: December 12, 2016, 03:51:31 PM »

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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1362 on: December 12, 2016, 03:52:33 PM »

doesn't count as played on doctored English wickets and batsmen were bribed to get out to him
Thought Larwood's claim to fame was body line?
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1363 on: December 12, 2016, 03:54:47 PM »

yes England paid groundsman to docture wickets

its only way we get wickets or do anything
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1364 on: December 12, 2016, 03:55:24 PM »

No way near the greatest English fast bowler. Trueman was twice as good

he only played to keep the yorkies happy!
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