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[roco]

Take the blinkers off... you've proven the difference in wickets is negligible

yes but its a difference of 9

that's too big so we should only play him at home and ashwin  (who is prob best spinner out there now) has a difference of 12 home and away so he should only play home as well

Lets just only play home tests as there must be something in growing up and playing 80% of your cricket in certain conditions that makes it easier to be better at home than away but I cant put my finger on it

[six and out]

Unless we have an absolute mare of a summer Cook's last series as captain will be Ashes away 2017/18.

Cook has 5 months off after this then we should beat the Windies at home and even if we lose to SA they would be mad to give the new captain a first series an away Ashes.

[Calzehbhoy]

The more I look at it the more it seems that Cook wants to go, has told the ECB he's done with the captaincy but the ECB have overruled and told him they don't want him to go until after the Ashes.

Will be interesting to see in the summer what his interest/enthusiasm levels are.

[alexhilly1492]

South Africa at home does seem to be the series that ends the reign of England's captains! If I remember correctly Nasser, Vaughan and Strauss were all ousted during/after series vs sa at home

Just sayin....

[ppccopener]

The more I look at it the more it seems that Cook wants to go, has told the ECB he's done with the captaincy but the ECB have overruled and told him they don't want him to go until after the Ashes.

Will be interesting to see in the summer what his interest/enthusiasm levels are.

I think youre right, you could see he has flown straight out after the birth of his daughter and the job is wearing him down and it does everyone who has done it.

Cook is doing England a massive service, he is trying to get the team settled before he hands over the reins

im convinced of it.......

and we are not settled are we?  I honestly think we are improving, yes we have come unstuck in India, but from the last couple of years swann.kp.bell.prior,strauss all gone

and we have had a lot of changes in the team

straussy will want him to do it another year I reckon.....

[uknsaunders]

The whole Cook thing is bs. Him and Strauss are best mates and the last thing they would want for a young team is a change in captain. Cook hardly gets overworked as he just does tests and he always knew India was a tough gig with the spinners he had.

The blame has to go towards the selection panel who let Ballance go,  take one seamer too many,  and didn't work out another left armed turning the ball away might of been sensible against a team of right handers. Even after Bangladesh they could of moved players between the lions and the squad and they didn't.

Add to that a complete lack of planning after Pakistan mauling our spinners in the UAE last winter and you really have to wonder what Strauss & Co has been doing for the past 12 months.

On the brightside we haven't just lost at home to an injury ravaged team  ,  yet.

[Calzehbhoy]

Just seen the Vaughan interview saying Bayliss has lost 11 out of 21 tests. Worrying for a side with the class of England's seam attack who also have Root & Cook in the top 6! At what stage do we look at Bayliss as a whole and ask if he's right for the job?

[uknsaunders]

Just seen the Vaughan interview saying Bayliss has lost 11 out of 21 tests. Worrying for a side with the class of England's seam attack who also have Root & Cook in the top 6! At what stage do we look at Bayliss as a whole and ask if he's right for the job?

Great use of stats.

Ashes 3-2
Lost 2-0 in UAE
SA 2-1
Sri Lanka 1-0
2-2 Pakistan
1-1 Bangladesh
3-0 down in India

Undefeated at home
Won in SA
Stuffed in Asia.

Could be worse. Two games were dead rubbers we lost.

[iand123]

Michael Vaughan jumps on any bandwagon he can, he also doesn't tend to use stats very well, picked Gary sobers in his best ever ODI XI despite him playing one ODI

[ppccopener]

He's been good for us, he must of been brought in because our one day cricket was 5 years behind everybody else and Strauss and whoever else made the decision we can't be snobbish any more and treat limited overs cricket as second class. Let's be honest that's exactly what we did for years, absolutely years!!

He wants aggressive positive cricket and it's worked in the one dayers. I'm not sure it can translate as well to test cricket.
The game has changed yes but you cannot just stick one day players in and hope it works over five days. Unless you have the technique and mental strength to bat time you will be found out. And we have been.

Seems now slightly different thinking with jennings and and def hameed-these guys are potentially test players for a long time,hameed especially I think.

Overall I think he's a good coach and a good fit for England.

Might be worth remembering as my pak mate pointed out to me today, SA and Aust have been soundly thrashed in Asia in the last 6 months.

[Woodyspin]

one day players in test cricket work... look at warner

[Buzz]

Michael Vaughan is just a pathetic click bait merchant these days. Genuine rent a quote.

Cook has effectively resigned already, he doesn't need the captaincy anymore.

Whoever takes over, I assume Root, will have a very stable starting point for the summer...
Cook
Hameed
Jennings
Root
Bairstow
Stokes
Moeen
Woakes
Rashid
Broad
Anderson

Bayliss needs to up his game or let his number 2 step up.

But there isn't a lot to change.

India have a better team than us right now, which is light years better than us at home.

Having a rant about everything is a waste of energy. Results will get better, confidence will return and results will improve.

This is a tough tour, that happens.

[Woodyspin]

Off of someones head, how many times have our squad visited india... Buttler (constant IPL experience) Root 2? cook 3? anderson 3? broad 3? the rest... have they?

[uknsaunders]

one day players in test cricket work... look at warner

I think Warner is a one off. You can point at Morgan & Hales as examples of it not working so well. I think for the most part you need to be able to technically be good enough to start with to play test cricket.

[Woodyspin]

need to be able to technically be good enough to start with to play test cricket.

Steve Smith?