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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #435 on: November 17, 2016, 11:25:58 AM »

oh wow the new ball worked, go figure!

I must admit that for a while I thought Captain Cook was getting better with his fields, bowling options and changes but the last 5 test matches he has had a shocker that TBH have cost us games.
I would still keep him in the team but think it's time to give the captaincy to Stokesy!!
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« Reply #436 on: November 17, 2016, 11:31:16 AM »

I always suspected that this is win the toss, 99% win the game.
We will have to be very lucky and bat out of our skins to win on this wicket - it'll only get worse!!

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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #437 on: November 17, 2016, 11:41:56 AM »

I always suspected that this is win the toss, 99% win the game.
We will have to be very lucky and bat out of our skins to win on this wicket - it'll only get worse!!

Agree entirely Pete..  I expect us to lose but I want to see how close to the 5th day we can get.
Biggest factor for me though is how we play the spin. Hopefully, the lunging forward with bat out well in front of pad and play the dot ball has gone. Using the crease and attempting to take singles if the ball isn't short or full.enough to punish.
Still want to see YJB and Stokesy bat together because Stokesy seems to lose his train of thought and just goes toe to toe with YJB till one of the gets themselves out. Lol
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #438 on: November 17, 2016, 11:43:13 AM »

Close of Play Day 1 in 1st Test England were 311/4 so virtually identical as India today - major difference is this pitch sounds like it is going to do a lot more a lot quicker - this is going to be a proper test for our batters
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #439 on: November 17, 2016, 01:02:05 PM »

I think Eng will be able to bat decently the first time around but 2nd innings/5th day will be the real test of their progress
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #440 on: November 17, 2016, 01:11:14 PM »

Real shame England lost the toss.
Was very keen on wanting to see how the Indians would fare batting last here.
I do definitely feel, England will crumble under the weight of scoreboard pressure. That's my prediction.
Would be happy to be proven wrong though. :)
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #441 on: November 17, 2016, 01:11:26 PM »

The wicket is already showing its verables low bounce high bounce seam and spin  its a  watch the ball and let it come to you  track.
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #442 on: November 17, 2016, 01:13:32 PM »

I think Eng will be able to bat decently the first time around but 2nd innings/5th day will be the real test of their progress

 :) :)

I think we( BARMY ARMY!!) are going to be right up against it. this wicket will break up rapid.

this is the reason lots of us fans are not expecting miracles from this tour. Yes we played well in the first game where it only turned a bit.

this is going to go sideways very quickly and it's why it's so hard to win in India
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #443 on: November 17, 2016, 01:18:43 PM »

For me Kohli is fine on spinning / flat wickets. As soon as you get any movement around off stump he's struggling. I'm sure he'll crack it eventually but he'll struggle in england/nz/sa in particular.

What rubbish! Kohli has a fantastic record in both South Africa and New Zealand. Better than Root's in fact. Kohli's away record is actually far better than his home record. Something that he will rectify this home season. Only place he failed big time was those five tests in England.
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #444 on: November 17, 2016, 01:29:25 PM »

Cook's tactics where poor today. Ansari ahead of Moeen was a howler. Hussain said Kohli's been out to off spinners 20 times. And rather incredibly averages 150 odd against slow left arm...Kohli's money shot is the cover drive and at time Ansari fed it to him.
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #445 on: November 17, 2016, 01:58:45 PM »

Cook's tactics where poor today. Ansari ahead of Moeen was a howler. Hussain said Kohli's been out to off spinners 20 times. And rather incredibly averages 150 odd against slow left arm...Kohli's money shot is the cover drive and at time Ansari fed it to him.

For me your spot on. Also would have only given Rashid 4/5 overs and if no good turn go back.to your main spinners. Moeen has had success bowling as 1st spinner for last 2 years.. So why the change today? Also Batty over Ansari just because I think it's a lot ask of Ansari in bowling to the top 3/4 on a non turning wicket against 2 of the best players in the world when it comes to.playing spin...
I suppose with Woakes not playing Captain Cook has opted for the better batsman in Ansari...
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #446 on: November 17, 2016, 02:00:36 PM »

Cook's tactics where poor today. Ansari ahead of Moeen was a howler. Hussain said Kohli's been out to off spinners 20 times. And rather incredibly averages 150 odd against slow left arm...Kohli's money shot is the cover drive and at time Ansari fed it to him.

Yes missed an opportunity against Aswin  who had just come in in the permulmate over by not having a slip preferring a cover fielder
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #447 on: November 17, 2016, 02:06:30 PM »

Yes missed an opportunity against Aswin  who had just come in in the permulmate over by not having a slip preferring a cover fielder

Agree, have yet to be convinced by Ashwin as a no.6 the constantly going on the back foot guiding the ball through slip area or jumping forward with a big stride could / should work in India but anywhere else? Not for me...
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #448 on: November 17, 2016, 02:06:41 PM »

For those who missed the dog https://streamable.com/q01t

Best bit is when he decides to go for a number 1
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #449 on: November 17, 2016, 02:10:12 PM »

Agree, have yet to be convinced by Ashwin as a no.6 the constantly going on the back foot guiding the ball through slip area or jumping forward with a big stride could / should work in India but anywhere else? Not for me...
I read on Twitter that Ashwin was an opening batsman before he took up spin. His technique is solid but just more comfortable on the rear foot. And IMO no way should a biffer like Saha bat ahead of Ashwin
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