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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #930 on: November 30, 2016, 09:51:27 AM »

Basically a couple of batters aren't firing and the 3rd spinner is broken. From that situation, in India, it's almost impossible to balance your XI up, unless one of those players comes good.
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #931 on: November 30, 2016, 09:52:30 AM »

he's clearly got a bit of personality which might help him going forward

I think he has a bright future long term. looking at Athertons article on Sky yesterday, he has Duckett back in the team opening or middle with sam billings in also, Root up top if Duckett goes 4

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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #932 on: November 30, 2016, 09:53:17 AM »

Dawson and jennings in for hameed and ansari



Did anyone in here predict Dawson? I can't remember reading it
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #933 on: November 30, 2016, 09:56:59 AM »

Dawson and jennings in for hameed and ansari



Did anyone in here predict Dawson? I can't remember reading it

yes mentioned in you go back far enough before the series...  but in truth i'm not sure we have 3 high class spinners in the Country to pick from
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #934 on: November 30, 2016, 09:59:43 AM »

yes mentioned in you go back far enough before the series...  but in truth i'm not sure we have 3 high class spinners in the Country to pick from

I was referring to call ups and replacements.

People on twitter already slagging off his Fc figures
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #935 on: November 30, 2016, 10:01:13 AM »

Don't see why England don't pick an extra batsmen?

So the bowling attack could be:

Anderson
Stokes
Ball
Ali
Rashid

and then 6 batters:
Cook
Root
Bairstow
Butler
Duckett?
another
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #936 on: November 30, 2016, 10:05:03 AM »

I was referring to call ups and replacements.

People on twitter already slagging off his Fc figures

it's the third spinner that has caused us problems here hasn't it.

rash and Ali are shoe-in's. its trying to get the third one in who is good enough

as ive said I think we would be better playing another seamer. Or as wasted mentions below...maybe even an extra batsman
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #937 on: November 30, 2016, 10:08:22 AM »

Interesting to note, that even Ravi Shashtri suggested England should play the extra batsmen...
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #938 on: November 30, 2016, 10:14:40 AM »

Calling up Jennings surely means he plays. Agree that we should have called up an extra batsman rather than another allrounder.

Would imagine the next test will look like:
Cook
Jennings
Root
Ali
Bairstow
Stokes
Buttler
Woakes
Rashid
Anderson
Ball

Batty and Ali bowled 35 overs combined in the last test. May as well just have Ali bowl those overs and add in a bit of Joe Root and stick with what works. Allows the seamers to rotate more especially with Cook having more faith in Rashid now.
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #939 on: November 30, 2016, 10:19:25 AM »

Possibly looking at Dawson to provide a steady economical bit of control, rather than rip through the side, although I think he might be a pleasant surprise. There's something about him, and maybe he will surprise everyone given a turning surface - he's apparently a very bright, thinking cricketer and I think Farbrace rates him from what he's seen.
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #940 on: November 30, 2016, 10:19:36 AM »

I would do the opposite to most.

Bringing a guy up on debut in India in a test series we have no hope of winning when we know we will start our next series with Hameed anyway is pretty harsh on a young guy who will have played little cricket in the last month or two.

I'd open with a Bell for two tests or say to Duckett, go on have another pop. Like a Carberry type selection a few years ago, which always felt like a stop gap for Robson after they convinced him to declare for England.

Some just mentioned Hales, that is just as good.
now England can't win the series
Bringing the lions  into the team is a tremendous  opportunity for them or Billings to show what they can do  Bell is a backward step and there's little point  in this series exposing Duckett to The bowling of Ashwin.
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #941 on: November 30, 2016, 11:08:18 AM »

Calling up Jennings surely means he gets thrown in - however is it opening with Cook or does Root open and you ease him in lower down the order, as he hasn't played etc...

On the Dawson call up - as much as i agree that Dawson has something about him - if we are replacing our third spinner and they want a left armer - surely you have to call up Jack Leach don't you?

I think the side picks itself again really - due to the selectors making a muck up of it from the start -

Cook
Jennings
Root
Mo
Bairstow
Stokes
Butler
Woakes
Rashid
Anderson
Ball/Dawson (Dawson not batting at 11 obviously) - dependent on the pitch in Mumbai - personally i would go with Ball

Considering previous games you can't pick Batty, Duckett or Ballance so you aren't left with much choice.
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #942 on: November 30, 2016, 11:36:50 AM »

Could it be possible, looking into the further with a lots of ifs and buts that we could have three openers for 2 spots and cook misses out?

If his form drops and has stepped down from skipper with hammeed proving himself at this level pretty much already and Jennings comes in and does really wel that by the end of the English summer our openers will be hammeed and Jennings?
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #943 on: November 30, 2016, 11:41:51 AM »

Isn't Jennings a Saffa?
The decision to select him becomes clear, old habits die hard and all...
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #944 on: November 30, 2016, 11:45:34 AM »

Isn't Jennings a Saffa?
The decision to select him becomes clear, old habits die hard and all...

Renshaw was unavailable....  ;) ;) ;)
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