Topic: India v England Test Series (Read 204529 times)

Felix Tito · « **Reply #1275 on:** December 11, 2016, 10:21:10 PM »

I don't really see the similarities between what happened to South Africa and New Zealand compared to what's happening to us. For some unknown reason India dished up absolute sandpits against SA and NZ(despite both countries always accommodating the international schedules to avoid clashing with India's cash cow the IPL).

Not one pitch in this series has been anyway near the sandpits the other touring sides received.

Felix Tito · « **Reply #1276 on:** December 11, 2016, 10:25:14 PM »

IIRC Ponting averaged around 15 in India, until his last tour there when he scored a few runs. Does that mean he's not an all time great? Heck no.

Yes Kohli had a shocker on these shores in 2014, more so Anderson had it on him TBH, but his resum� everywhere else stacks up as well as anyone's.

Alvaro · « **Reply #1277 on:** December 11, 2016, 10:26:06 PM »

1. I think India prepared sandpits against NZ and SA to get enough ranking points to get to no.1
2. The humiliation of England is greater, as these matches having been played on more sporting wickets.

As an aside, the trash talk of both sides has been unedifying and boorish. Sometimes I wish I was a Kiwi...

csnew · « **Reply #1278 on:** December 11, 2016, 10:33:13 PM »

The Indians have come under criticism for preparing Bunsen burners, yet not a word about green tops usually.

Been disappointed with the wickets on this tour so far apart from this one. Makes it much better viewing when the bowlers are on top and the batsmen have to fight.

Wouldn't have mattered if England's spinners would have had a chance to knock India over, they aren't Swann and monty. Plenty of freebies available with these 2 spinners. Pressure seems to get to them as soon as the ball turns

Felix Tito · « **Reply #1279 on:** December 11, 2016, 10:44:38 PM »

TBH the only spinner to cause India much concern has been Mitchell Santner during this period of home domination. The young Kiwi was the stand out.

cesare_in · « **Reply #1280 on:** December 12, 2016, 05:47:45 AM »

Watched 4 out of 5 days at the Wankhede stadium and tbh England looked downcast on the field all those days. Their body language gave it all away. Add to that some atrocious field placement esp when Virat and Jayant were batting. Something's you cannot make out while watching on TV.

Wish they had fought a little more harder that 4th morning and also when they batted in the 2nd innings.

csnew · « **Reply #1281 on:** December 12, 2016, 07:20:07 AM »

Another 5 wicket haul for ashwin. Cook's blamed the missed chances for this loss - his failings in my view:

1. Team selection - playing 4 medium pacers
2. Throwing his wicket away on day 1
3. Over bowling rashid, not making enough bowling changes.
4. Waiting until the 136th over to take the new ball. Ashwin showed what a spinner can do with the new ball.
5. Saw him at fine leg at one point.

I'm sure I've missed some. It would have been easier had he lost the toss, he would have had a proper excuse. He used the toss excuse earlier in the series.

Expecting chennai to turn square then again never know given the pitches this series

Number4 · « **Reply #1282 on:** December 12, 2016, 08:00:57 AM »

Quote from: SOULMAN1012 on December 11, 2016, 08:22:54 PM

England have played pretty well in this Test match and the only reason we will more than likely look like losing this test is dropped catches, Kohli and Jayent put on over 270 runs after being dropped, Kohli was tough chance but should have been caught and Jayent was regulation at Test level.
Lots of positives for me from this series, Hameed and Jennings look like decent top order players, Anderson has recovered from his injury and rashid has got a lot better, butler is back in the side and scoring runs and JB has kept well this series so far so good selection meetings over those two and the gloves and who should bat where
Disappointing is that our spinners are just average compared to top level spinners and this is reflected in English cricket, we need to work in this in the county game, broad injured and I do feel that would have made a difference having him in this test.

Tomorrow if we can get a lead of 80 that would be a great effort by England and maybe, just maybe the wheels could come off the India batting line up.

Must have been watching a different game

ppccopener · « **Reply #1283 on:** December 12, 2016, 08:19:52 AM »

Quote from: csnew on December 12, 2016, 07:20:07 AM

Another 5 wicket haul for ashwin. Cook's blamed the missed chances for this loss - his failings in my view:

1. Team selection - playing 4 medium pacers
2. Throwing his wicket away on day 1
3. Over bowling rashid, not making enough bowling changes.
4. Waiting until the 136th over to take the new ball. Ashwin showed what a spinner can do with the new ball.
5. Saw him at fine leg at one point.

I'm sure I've missed some. It would have been easier had he lost the toss, he would have had a proper excuse. He used the toss excuse earlier in the series.

Expecting chennai to turn square then again never know given the pitches this series

The pitches have wrong footed us quite right because only this one has spun big and Cook has not had a great game right also.
For England to compete we needed big runs and to hold our catches which we havnt..and India are a good side at home.
The third spinner has to be Root leaving a space for an extra bowler or an extra batsman-we could have a batsman because theres def enough bowling in the side.
0-3 is a fair reflection thou...i dont think England should be making excuses..we were nearly one up after the 1st test as well

Woodyspin · « **Reply #1284 on:** December 12, 2016, 08:24:50 AM »

We need our spinners to take wickets on spinning wickets, Ali has only taken 9 compared to Rashids 22 this series

ppccopener · « **Reply #1285 on:** December 12, 2016, 08:51:10 AM »

Rash has done well, didn't bowl great this game but in the previous ones def improved from previous matches.

You can dress it up anyway you want but we are playing 4 seamers because our spinners are not top class, I wish we had a couple but we don't, and we certainly don't have 3.

Rashid has exceeded my expectations this tour, 22 wickets is not bad at all

Felix Tito · « **Reply #1286 on:** December 12, 2016, 09:10:12 AM »

Rashid's wickets tally looks fine, he just doesn't get the batsmen out, more they gift their wickets as they are wanting to smash him to the moon and back...

alexhilly1492 · « **Reply #1287 on:** December 12, 2016, 09:15:51 AM »

Quote from: Felix Tito on December 12, 2016, 09:10:12 AM

Rashid's wickets tally looks fine, he just doesn't get the batsmen out, more they gift their wickets as they are wanting to smash him to the moon and back...

Wickets are wickets doesn't matter how they come! You can say the same for some of Ashwins wickets today rashids wicket case in point

Felix Tito · « **Reply #1288 on:** December 12, 2016, 09:23:54 AM »

Quote from: alexhilly1492 on December 12, 2016, 09:15:51 AM

Wickets are wickets doesn't matter how they come! You can say the same for some of Ashwins wickets today rashids wicket case in point

The deliveries that Bairstow and Woakes got separate the great bowlers from the merely average ones. Bairstow batted superbly and was done like a kipper.

rickjames · « **Reply #1289 on:** December 12, 2016, 09:31:20 AM »

Lying in > watching us lose

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