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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1305 on: December 12, 2016, 10:32:23 AM »

I believe Root himself was showing a little reluctance to bowl when there were 3 frontline spinners in the side, and also he has talked of protecting his back.

However, I am in agreement with the Smiler - moving forward it may be useful to find a proper, more consistent spinner instead of both Mo and Rash and use Root as the 2nd spinning option.
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1306 on: December 12, 2016, 10:38:34 AM »

That will not happen because after this tour we're not due to go back to subcontinent pitches until at least the winter of 2018

Also Anderson's comments about Kohli are getting blown way out of proportion
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1307 on: December 12, 2016, 10:59:13 AM »


Also Anderson's comments about Kohli are getting blown way out of proportion

Sounds like usual Anderson - sour grapes. The pot calling the kettle black given his record on green tops. Got to love Graeme Smith digging into jimmy too ;)

Think ashwin should be fined for his behavior when anderson walked out.
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1308 on: December 12, 2016, 11:12:27 AM »

Andersons comments although badly timed are probably correct, or at least they are for now, obviously when kohli comes to england, if he gets runs then fair play he has the technique but as it stands im sure we can all say that kohli still has a few issues with the swinging ball, as we have no other evidence to go on
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1309 on: December 12, 2016, 11:21:24 AM »

He was asked an opinion and he offered one from an opposition bowler. I don't see the issue? Statistically speaking his averages overseas are decent apart from England, maybe Sri Lanka and West Indies if you wanted to be really difficult (38 and 36 respectively). I'm excluding Bangladesh at 14 as that was just one match...
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1310 on: December 12, 2016, 11:38:09 AM »

He was asked an opinion and he offered one from an opposition bowler. I don't see the issue? Statistically speaking his averages overseas are decent apart from England, maybe Sri Lanka and West Indies if you wanted to be really difficult (38 and 36 respectively). I'm excluding Bangladesh at 14 as that was just one match...

I agree... Ashwin was asked about Root and said that they had watched videos and knew he had a problem with spinners outside the off stump where Root pushes too hard at it and therefore candidate for edging behind. How's this different to Anderson having an opinion about an opposing player.
Bottom line is that it's a man's game and if someone expresses an opinion about you then you go out show them how wrong they are...
English batsmen struggle to play spin and Kohli is very suspect against the moving ball.
Cook is a poor captain and the top order batted poorly at important times.. Simples...
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1311 on: December 12, 2016, 11:43:42 AM »

Cook out and root in according to cook...... maybe

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/38286086
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1312 on: December 12, 2016, 11:48:46 AM »

Cook out and root in according to cook...... maybe

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/38286086


wrong move if it happens. I think listening to Cook he is running out of gas. but needs to hang on for a while yet.

no one should be groomed to lead England, it's not an old boys club handing over power
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1313 on: December 12, 2016, 12:06:11 PM »

wrong move if it happens. I think listening to Cook he is running out of gas. but needs to hang on for a while yet.

no one should be groomed to lead England, it's not an old boys club handing over power

I agree. Not sure root batting at 3 ( I prefer him at 4) and the pressure of captaincy will help his game.. Especially if England insist on.him playing all 3 formats. Some people like Jos and Stokesy seem to.thrive on responsibility but there are others like Kane Williamson and Amla who haven't..
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1314 on: December 12, 2016, 12:14:15 PM »

I agree. Not sure root batting at 3 ( I prefer him at 4) and the pressure of captaincy will help his game.. Especially if England insist on.him playing all 3 formats. Some people like Jos and Stokesy seem to.thrive on responsibility but there are others like Kane Williamson and Amla who haven't..

yes it doesn't work for me this....

I do think Cook is coming to the end, he looks a bit downcast, it's a tough tour this one.

but there are other players who could do it if they had to. Root would be under monumental pressure, would you want to do that to our best bat?

and he def needs to go back to 4-to help the team

Mo ALi has to get out of the top 5, he's way too high
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1315 on: December 12, 2016, 12:21:28 PM »

I think Root wants the job... Some people thrive under pressure and I believe Root is one of those people
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1316 on: December 12, 2016, 12:25:44 PM »

I think Root wants the job... Some people thrive under pressure and I believe Root is one of those people

pretty sure after this tour we are not playing test cricket until July next year...there's a big gap.

Don't know whether that would be looked at as a break for Cook(mentally) or a time to get Root in slowly...

England play a lot of cricket we don't normally get this break in the schedule(if i'm correct not playing till July)

would like to see Cook carry on next year personally
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1317 on: December 12, 2016, 12:27:07 PM »

I get the impression England want Cook to lead then in the Ashes next winter and will then let Root take over afterwards.
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1318 on: December 12, 2016, 12:30:19 PM »

I think Root wants the job... Some people thrive under pressure and I believe Root is one of those people

What makes you think he wants it?? I have heard him explain a few times that he believes his batting is still not at the standard he wants to be at and by his own admission he doesn't have much experience at captaincy.
Of course he won't turn the job down because being England captain is such an honour but for me if he does get it then he has to stop playing T20  cricket for England.
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1319 on: December 12, 2016, 12:42:06 PM »

What makes you think he wants it?? I have heard him explain a few times that he believes his batting is still not at the standard he wants to be at and by his own admission he doesn't have much experience at captaincy.
Of course he won't turn the job down because being England captain is such an honour but for me if he does get it then he has to stop playing T20  cricket for England.

yes exactly my understanding. any interview I have read or heard I think he's glad Cook is around to take the pressure off.

England need to think very carefully here... we have a history of unsuccessfully putting too much pressure on our best players

god knows we have made mistakes in the past
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