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Felix Tito

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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1560 on: December 16, 2016, 02:38:13 PM »

so, Younis Khan sucks, Moeen sucks, everyone sucks. Do you not get hugged enough in life?
Nah only Younus and Moeen suck.

Root's fine and dandy...as is YJB...
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1561 on: December 16, 2016, 02:39:11 PM »

Would rather him get wickets than not at all, if he wasnt taking wickets we would all be calling for him to be dropped as a bowler and considered soley as a batsman.
So taking wickets at 50 a pop is worthy of selection? Might as well recall Monty then...
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1562 on: December 16, 2016, 02:42:38 PM »

You're arguments are invalid because your facts are wrong.

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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1563 on: December 16, 2016, 02:51:23 PM »

You're arguments are invalid because your facts are wrong.

I don't think Trolls really care about being correct, or even logical ;)
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1564 on: December 16, 2016, 02:57:44 PM »

Until a better option comes along Ali will suffice!
Plus Ali is not the primary spinner - that is what we are sadly lacking.
He is doing a decent job at 4 at the mo (excuse the pun)
Is he a decent enough no4 bat? Stats would have us believe that he is! But I am of the opinion that he is better down the order!

But I suspect that the number 4 argument will soon be redundant as the top 4 batting positions will be taken once Hameed is fit again!
So with Cook, Hameed, Jennings and Root in top 4 (Jennings good enough? Too early to tell but I suspect the ton earned him the right to bat at 3 for a decent trial period)
 
I also suspect that the middle order (5-7) will be Ali, Stokes and Bairstow. Like others I would honestly prefer to see Bairstow, Stoke, Ali order of batting but think they will keep Bairstow at 7!
The rest of the order will be a variety of bowlers and just hope we can fit Buttler in there somewhere.
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1565 on: December 16, 2016, 03:20:23 PM »

You say not frontline but specialist number six/seven is a frontline role and he performs that very well - he just should not bat any higher in non-Asian conditions.  He has five Test centuries now - thats more than Mark Ramprakash or Graeme Hick, both supposedly front line batsmen, even managed....give him a little bit of credit, eh?

I think this post is on the right track  apart from the openers where you bat  should be dictated according to the country you are in for example would you select   moeen to bat  at four in Aus .
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1566 on: December 16, 2016, 03:25:46 PM »

Mo batting at 4 will no longer be an issue. The issue will now be whether he moves to 5 or 7!
The general concensus seems to be be that he will move to 5!
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1567 on: December 16, 2016, 03:28:41 PM »

maybe not them but gough and cork were surely genuine all rounders??
like many others
Both Gough  &   cork  scored runs at the start  Of there test careers Then there batting went downhill.
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1568 on: December 16, 2016, 03:33:13 PM »

Mo batting at 4 will no longer be an issue. The issue will now be whether he moves to 5 or 7!
The general concensus seems to be be that he will move to 5!

It could well be Bairstow at 5  remembering what happened when Moeen opened wouldn't want to see mo facing the quicks to early
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1569 on: December 16, 2016, 03:36:52 PM »

Anything below 4 won't be needed!

Cook'll be back to his prolific best, The Hamsta will score a stack of runs, Jennings will be our dependible Saffer (Just don't try and bounce him out otherwise he'll have to go him with a technical floor stress related illness and Root will then smash the trash. We'll post 500-2, declare and have it wrapped up by day 3!

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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1570 on: December 16, 2016, 03:38:40 PM »

It could well be Bairstow at 5  remembering what happened when Moeen opened wouldn't want to see mo facing the quicks to early

Cook
Hameed
Jennings
Root
Bairstow
Ali
Stokes
Woakes
Ball
Broad
Anderson

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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1571 on: December 16, 2016, 03:50:58 PM »

You're arguments are invalid because your facts are wrong.
I did Moeen's pies a disservice. 36 wickets at 49.22. Batsmen must be quaking in their boots...
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1572 on: December 16, 2016, 03:54:56 PM »

Felix take Mo Ali out of the England side

who are you replacing him with?

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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1573 on: December 16, 2016, 03:56:53 PM »

Cook
Hameed
Jennings
Root
Bairstow
Ali
Stokes
Woakes
Ball
Broad
Anderson

Stokes like to play at 6 and will insist on batting there!
Cook
Hameed
Jennings
Root
Bairstow
Stokes
Ali
Woakes/buttler
Ball
Broad
Anderson

If it we need Broad and Anderson bowling in unison.
Then would be nice to be able to play Buttler and therefore decide between Ball and Woakes as 4th seamer!
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1574 on: December 16, 2016, 03:58:54 PM »

Cook
Hameed
Jennings
Root
Bairstow
Ali
Stokes
Woakes
Ball
Broad
Anderson

Would put Stokes in after Jhonny also you only need four seamers in the UK so would have Buttler in for Woakes and batting after  stokes which puts Ali   Batting  in The UK at eight
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