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[Seniorplayer]

So if a cleft is low density willow but is an ugly blade does that mean it's not sold as low density just regular grade 2/3/4 willow?

If a cleft is truly low density  it wont be graded 2/3/4  its also rare for it to be available first up to the bat buying public

[WalkingWicket37]

@procricketAs a consumer, I feel we lose forest for the trees. Overdried? Under-dried? Does it even matter as long as it pings and makes me happy for my weekend game?

Is it possible to under dry a cleft?
As willow takes on and expels moisture to match it's environment, wouldn't it theoretically lose weight if it was "under dried" or came from a damper natural environment e.g made in England then taken to India? 

[Northern monkey]

Can a low density cleft be over pressed ?

[The Doctor]

If a cleft is truly low density  it wont be graded 2/3/4  its also rare for it to be available first up to the bat buying public

Not true in our book - only low density Grade 1 makes it into our crown grade - that's why these are so special and they are the price they are.

We don't tend to get a lot of low density grade 3's but the low density grade 2's we use for our Pro's.

Higher moisture = wont play as well
Lower moisture = become brittle

Research has show 11% is the optimum (hence the aim for willow suppliers to get to 10 - 12%). Interestingly, you cannot get to this moisture content (MC) without a kiln (UK climate).

Density can only be compared when clefts have a similar MC throughout otherwise you are comparing apples with pears and is pointless.

[Contrails]

@The Doctor "but the low density grade 2's we use for our Pro's."

Any possibility of us average joes getting hands on these?

[Six Sixes Cricket]

@The Doctor "but the low density grade 2's we use for our Pro's."

Any possibility of us average joes getting hands on these?

I've got a 358 cleft 2stripe and a 363 cleft 1stripe, these are available to everyone, you just need to ask, wait,choose or design a shape and pay.

[Righthand]

How does one confirm that a bat is low density willow vs overdried? As an example with CA you can tell that they use overdried willow a lot. Is their 15000 players edition 7 star bat still overdried willow or low density cleft? The price seems to suggest it is low density cleft but wanted other people opinion's.

Also how much low density willow would JS Wright supply big batmakers in a year? Like SS, CA, GM?

 

[procricket]

I've got a 358 cleft 2stripe and a 363 cleft 1stripe, these are available to everyone, you just need to ask, wait,choose or design a shape and pay.

you have good friends......

[Six Sixes Cricket]

you have good friends......

Theres definitely a few beers owed 🍻👍

[tom line]

Out of curiosity B3 what's the lightest cleft you've had and what shape did it produce? Could it have done a 50mm edged warner profile with no concaving at 2,10

[The Doctor]

Out of curiosity B3 what's the lightest cleft you've had and what shape did it produce? Could it have done a 50mm edged warner profile with no concaving at 2,10

342

And if the cleft was big enough (i.e. oversized) it would have made a Warner at 2lb 9oz!

[InternalTraining]

How does one confirm that a bat is low density willow vs overdried? As an example with CA you can tell that they use overdried willow a lot. Is their 15000 players edition 7 star bat still overdried willow or low density cleft? The price seems to suggest it is low density cleft but wanted other people opinion's.

Also how much low density willow would JS Wright supply big batmakers in a year? Like SS, CA, GM?

CA's 7-star line are low-density bats. I have seen a SM-18 7 star and it is a huge bat for a 2-7 weight!

[InternalTraining]

Is it possible to under dry a cleft?
As willow takes on and expels moisture to match it's environment, wouldn't it theoretically lose weight if it was "under dried" or came from a damper natural environment e.g made in England then taken to India?

Yes, I think it is possible on both counts.

None of my bats have lost weight in recent years. I do make a point of weighing all my active bats once a year. I know somebody who leaves his bats near heating radiator to reduce moisture.

[CrickFreak]

CA's 7-star line are low-density bats. I have seen a SM-18 7 star and it is a huge bat for a 2-7 weight!

I think you are mixing up density, dryness and cleft size. The huge 2-7 might be a oversized overdried cleft, not necessarily oversized low density cleft.
Density and dryness can make a bat lighter but not necessarily bigger as point out by Doc in his post.

[Righthand]

Is there a way to check the moisture content in a bat? Get a reading somehow?